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Title: More Spoilers
Date Posted:
Wed Jan/11/12 at 11:40pm
Bladelord00
Posts: 112
Joined: 13-Nov-08
http://media.wizards.com/images/magic/tcg/products/dka/d0lxz3hzsx_en.jpg
http://media.wizards.com/images/magic/tcg/products/dka/jum72rexlj_en.jpg
Date Posted:
Thu Jan/12/12 at 8:28am
PinkiePie
Posts: 157
Joined: 10-Sep-11
Aw, they lied, its not a planeswalker! That stax general looks great though!
Date Posted:
Thu Jan/12/12 at 11:28am
Starship
Posts: 549
Joined: 13-Dec-11
love this
this plus my infinite of your general combo equals beauty!
Date Posted:
Thu Jan/12/12 at 11:31am
TheCaptain
Posts: 909
Joined: 13-Apr-11
I'm thrilled about Thalia as well. She'll be going in my Grand Arbiter EDH for sure.
Date Posted:
Thu Jan/12/12 at 12:43pm
Starship
Posts: 549
Joined: 13-Dec-11
the potential for a grand arbiter deck was already high, but this, this makes it amazing.
Date Posted:
Thu Jan/12/12 at 1:55pm
darthnefas
Posts: 1081
Joined: 04-Apr-11
Can you have more than one Legend in your deck? I don't know why they made that a legend. I think that could make a new deck style.
Date Posted:
Thu Jan/12/12 at 2:12pm
Starship
Posts: 549
Joined: 13-Dec-11
you can have a max of four of a legend in your deck just like any other card, but you can only have one of copy of it on the field at once, including your opponent's side of the field. (unless you have mirror gallery out lol)
i hope i answered you question, as far as why it's a legend, i have no idea.
Date Posted:
Thu Jan/12/12 at 3:26pm
PinkiePie
Posts: 157
Joined: 10-Sep-11
Date Posted:
Thu Jan/12/12 at 3:50pm
Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09
Am I the only person for whom those pictures aren't working.
Date Posted:
Thu Jan/12/12 at 4:35pm
Starship
Posts: 549
Joined: 13-Dec-11
no, same here.
Date Posted:
Thu Jan/12/12 at 5:02pm
PinkiePie
Posts: 157
Joined: 10-Sep-11
Actually me too...!
Date Posted:
Thu Jan/12/12 at 5:05pm
Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09
FIX THEM PINKIE!
(Shift disabled)
Date Posted:
Thu Jan/12/12 at 5:14pm
PinkiePie
Posts: 157
Joined: 10-Sep-11
Tu lazee!
Date Posted:
Thu Jan/12/12 at 6:02pm
Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09
You speeled that wrong.
Date Posted:
Fri Jan/13/12 at 7:59am
Starship
Posts: 549
Joined: 13-Dec-11
this one's fun
Date Posted:
Fri Jan/13/12 at 8:45am
Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09
Is that card confirmed? It seems kind of op. Great as a general.
Date Posted:
Fri Jan/13/12 at 9:10am
Starship
Posts: 549
Joined: 13-Dec-11
yeah it's confirmed
and it's completely op and that's why i love it!
[Edited by Starship on 13/Jan/12 at 9:12AM]
Date Posted:
Fri Jan/13/12 at 9:22am
Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09
It's probably weak because of Dismember..
Date Posted:
Fri Jan/13/12 at 11:01am
Starship
Posts: 549
Joined: 13-Dec-11
probably, but i still want to use it.
Date Posted:
Fri Jan/13/12 at 11:09am
Pal-of-Lim-Dul
Posts: 1148
Joined: 24-May-10
Lich not Legendary (so can't be general)
Thalia affects all noncreature spells (including your own) so I dunno how synergistic it'll be in Augustin deck...
On a side note, I'm glad they boosted werewolves... might make them playable:
[Edited by Pal-of-Lim-Dul on 13/Jan/12 at 11:10AM]
Date Posted:
Fri Jan/13/12 at 11:19am
Starship
Posts: 549
Joined: 13-Dec-11
yeah, they kind of sucked in innistrad.
Date Posted:
Fri Jan/13/12 at 11:30am
DyingJester
Posts: 1771
Joined: 16-Dec-08
Well..due to immerwolf red/green stompy may be a go again...
Date Posted:
Fri Jan/13/12 at 11:32am
Starship
Posts: 549
Joined: 13-Dec-11
lol i enjoy this
upgraded persist!
[Edited by Starship on 13/Jan/12 at 11:33AM]
Date Posted:
Fri Jan/13/12 at 11:37am
PinkiePie
Posts: 157
Joined: 10-Sep-11
You still need to have the colors of mana to cast it, so its not ridiculously op! (lich)
Thalia would be great in any stax deck!
also:
really dont like any of these.
Date Posted:
Fri Jan/13/12 at 11:47am
DyingJester
Posts: 1771
Joined: 16-Dec-08
Are you kidding me? Wolfbitten captive? Pyreheart Wolf? This is exactly what R/G needs! Moar evasion, and another 1 drop wolfie!
Theoretical setup.
T1, mountain, Wolfbitten captive (Or even better wreckless waif).
T2, forest, Mayor of Avabruck
T3, rootbound crag, Immerwolf.
T4, Your opponent prays for a black sun's zenith, or a day of judgement. Cause killing 1 lord just won't be enough. (Odds of the deck they play being control is pretty high. R/G stompy only plays 18-22 lands. They'll be stuck in what I call a mana vacuum (or mana flood). While you topdeck moar wolves. (Tezzeret's gambit can literally seal their fate in most cases. Netting a werewolf that transforms is usually not a problem in the late game).
Date Posted:
Fri Jan/13/12 at 11:55am
PinkiePie
Posts: 157
Joined: 10-Sep-11
I know that theyre decent as cards, but i dont like them! Huntsmaster should have been better, and he should have been legendary so i could build a rg werewolves edh!
Date Posted:
Fri Jan/13/12 at 12:02pm
Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09
Yay for rush! Down with the Control tyranny!
Date Posted:
Fri Jan/13/12 at 2:16pm
Starship
Posts: 549
Joined: 13-Dec-11
but control is fun...
Date Posted:
Fri Jan/13/12 at 2:22pm
PinkiePie
Posts: 157
Joined: 10-Sep-11
Not in standard....! In edh and vintage control is fun!
Date Posted:
Fri Jan/13/12 at 2:25pm
Starship
Posts: 549
Joined: 13-Dec-11
true, quick infect is fun in standard...and humans!
[Edited by Starship on 13/Jan/12 at 2:31PM]
Date Posted:
Fri Jan/13/12 at 2:28pm
Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09
It's fun occasionally, but it's not when you have to play with it repeatly. It's the same with every deck type. Rush seems like fun, because I've played so much control.
Date Posted:
Fri Jan/13/12 at 2:32pm
Starship
Posts: 549
Joined: 13-Dec-11
it's true. most of my decks are control, but i can respect an honest beatdown deck.
Date Posted:
Fri Jan/13/12 at 2:33pm
Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09
Of course, combo decks are the best.
Date Posted:
Fri Jan/13/12 at 2:35pm
Starship
Posts: 549
Joined: 13-Dec-11
yes, and usually they fit in the control category.
Date Posted:
Fri Jan/13/12 at 2:38pm
Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09
No, they're different!
Stop ruining my dreams, hopes, desires, and pancakes!
Date Posted:
Fri Jan/13/12 at 2:39pm
Starship
Posts: 549
Joined: 13-Dec-11
i'm sorry about your pancakes and things.
even if a combo deck isn't a control deck by definition, it usually ends up being one.
Date Posted:
Fri Jan/13/12 at 2:47pm
Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09
Imma make an aggro combo deck then!
Date Posted:
Fri Jan/13/12 at 3:06pm
PinkiePie
Posts: 157
Joined: 10-Sep-11
Good combo deck are rarely control!
@turbine
I dont know what format youre talking about, but in edh, ghave is typically aggro-combo!
Date Posted:
Fri Jan/13/12 at 3:40pm
Starship
Posts: 549
Joined: 13-Dec-11
in my experience, a good control deck usually has good combos.
Date Posted:
Fri Jan/13/12 at 5:46pm
Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09
All a control deck needs is a win-con. It can be a beat-stick or a combo.
Date Posted:
Mon Jan/16/12 at 11:06pm
PinkiePie
Posts: 157
Joined: 10-Sep-11
And it continues...!
Date Posted:
Mon Jan/16/12 at 11:09pm
PinkiePie
Posts: 157
Joined: 10-Sep-11
Hellrider
Creature - Devil
Haste
Whenever a creature you control attacks, Hellrider deals 1 damage to defending player.
"Behind every devil's mayhem lurks a demon's scheme."
--Ren Karolus, Blade of the Inquisitors
Illus. Svetlin Velinov
#95/158
3/3
Date Posted:
Mon Jan/16/12 at 11:24pm
PinkiePie
Posts: 157
Joined: 10-Sep-11
Date Posted:
Tue Jan/17/12 at 12:50am
Narcinek War-Rider
Posts: 1283
Joined: 16-Jun-11
I play control myself and I'll sit there top-decking nothing but countermagic and removal. My win cons are Batterskull and Tezz of Bolas where I make Hovermyr and Vault Skirge (and occasionally a Tumble Magnet with no more counters) 5/5s. Control. May you never cease to be awesome.
Date Posted:
Tue Jan/17/12 at 9:42am
Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09
You should use the Retriever loop as a win-con! It's so awesome!
Date Posted:
Tue Jan/17/12 at 2:55pm
Starship
Posts: 549
Joined: 13-Dec-11
tezz plus any zero cast artifact is good.
Date Posted:
Tue Jan/17/12 at 3:14pm
PinkiePie
Posts: 157
Joined: 10-Sep-11
Im not seeing my pictures, so imma try again!
You dont need to know german to see what this does! I like this!
Dumb!
Too expensive, but otherwise cool!
This is cool!
Dumb!
OK SERIOUSLY FUCK THIS CARD!
Overpowered!
Date Posted:
Tue Jan/17/12 at 3:36pm
Starship
Posts: 549
Joined: 13-Dec-11
feed the pack and the ooze are pretty sweat...and that land...oh dear bucking god.
[Edited by Starship on 17/Jan/12 at 3:37PM]
Date Posted:
Tue Jan/17/12 at 3:37pm
DyingJester
Posts: 1771
Joined: 16-Dec-08
Hmmm....maybe w/b vampire sleigh might be an option too...
Date Posted:
Tue Jan/17/12 at 3:44pm
Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09
That cage is such a stupid card! At least increase it's CMC!
Date Posted:
Tue Jan/17/12 at 3:50pm
Starship
Posts: 549
Joined: 13-Dec-11
it's a dick card for sure. it would completely destroy the graveborn deck, or any other reanimate deck.
Date Posted:
Tue Jan/17/12 at 4:25pm
PinkiePie
Posts: 157
Joined: 10-Sep-11
It destroys dredge! It stops narcomoeba, dread return, and cabal therapy!
Date Posted:
Tue Jan/17/12 at 4:31pm
Starship
Posts: 549
Joined: 13-Dec-11
this one's pretty cool too
Date Posted:
Tue Jan/17/12 at 4:40pm
PinkiePie
Posts: 157
Joined: 10-Sep-11
Okay...! Its time to stop posting pictures from that site!
Date Posted:
Tue Jan/17/12 at 4:43pm
Starship
Posts: 549
Joined: 13-Dec-11
hold on, what site?
i see nothing wrong.
Date Posted:
Tue Jan/17/12 at 11:31pm
PinkiePie
Posts: 157
Joined: 10-Sep-11
meh
english
This was already in standard, i dont know why they felt the need to reprint it! (I guess for when m12 rotates?!)
Meh!
Meh! Kinda cool
Whatever! This just reinforces the vampire tribal decks!
!
Date Posted:
Tue Jan/17/12 at 11:49pm
Narcinek War-Rider
Posts: 1283
Joined: 16-Jun-11
Grafdigers Cage could be what what my control deck needs to stand up to Reanimator cause I've lost every Reanimator matchup I've ever had.
Plus I think they reprinted Fling for artwork purposes cause that artwork is awesome.
Date Posted:
Wed Jan/18/12 at 2:19pm
Starship
Posts: 549
Joined: 13-Dec-11
i kinda want there to be a red white black vampire legend, so i can run all of the cool vampire stuff in a tribal deck.
i think helvault has some cool combo potential.
Date Posted:
Wed Jan/18/12 at 6:31pm
Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09
Grafdigger's Cage just defeats the entire reanimator deck as usefulness.
Date Posted:
Wed Jan/18/12 at 6:50pm
PinkiePie
Posts: 157
Joined: 10-Sep-11
Helvault is really only good with jokulhaups and/or obliterate!
Date Posted:
Thu Jan/19/12 at 5:42am
PinkiePie
Posts: 157
Joined: 10-Sep-11
-sigh-
[Edited by PinkamenaDianePie on 19/Jan/12 at 5:43AM]
Date Posted:
Thu Jan/19/12 at 8:58am
Narcinek War-Rider
Posts: 1283
Joined: 16-Jun-11
Is it here yet.
Date Posted:
Thu Jan/19/12 at 11:08pm
PinkiePie
Posts: 157
Joined: 10-Sep-11
Meh!
Meh!
Date Posted:
Fri Jan/20/12 at 11:02am
Giovan
Posts: 39
Joined: 07-Oct-11
Elbrus, the Binding Blade // Withengar Unbound
Legendary Artifact - Equipment Mythic Rare
Equipped creature gets +1/+0.
Whenever equipped creature deals combat damage to a player, transform Elbrus, the Binding Blade.
Equip (1)
////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
Legendary Creature - Demon
Flying, trample, intimidate
Whenever a player loses the game, put thirteen +1/+1 counters on Withengar Unbound.
13/13
This card with Stoneforge Mystic become's INSANE!
Date Posted:
Fri Jan/20/12 at 11:06am
Starship
Posts: 549
Joined: 13-Dec-11
this was the flip legend of which i spake!
elbrus of course.
[Edited by Starship on 20/Jan/12 at 11:09AM]
Date Posted:
Fri Jan/20/12 at 11:41am
DyingJester
Posts: 1771
Joined: 16-Dec-08
The only downside being the fact that you need a creature left alive to use the damn thing...To be honest smart stoneforge people will just stick with the epicness that is batterskull.
Date Posted:
Fri Jan/20/12 at 11:42am
Twogunkid
Posts: 2609
Joined: 22-Jan-10
elberus is going to be fun.
So much multiplayer mayham
Garza Zol is getting a new friend to go with the blood tyrant
Date Posted:
Fri Jan/20/12 at 11:58am
PinkiePie
Posts: 157
Joined: 10-Sep-11
2 new lands!
Date Posted:
Sun Jan/22/12 at 11:08pm
PinkiePie
Posts: 157
Joined: 10-Sep-11
Date Posted:
Mon Jan/30/12 at 11:01am
Starship
Posts: 549
Joined: 13-Dec-11
went to the midnight pre-release and pulled a huntmaster and a vorapede. it was pretty awesome.
lost all of the games i played though.
Date Posted:
Mon Jan/30/12 at 12:10pm
PinkiePie
Posts: 157
Joined: 10-Sep-11
Went to a non-midnight prerelease and pulled a foil havengul! Won all of my games except 2 with a green-black deck! Because apparently indestructible creatures are pretty good...!
Date Posted:
Tue Jan/31/12 at 11:01am
Starship
Posts: 549
Joined: 13-Dec-11
yeah i played a green, white, and black deck. hardly any of my cards worked well together, and it was also my first booster draft tournament.
i did have some fun making trades.
Date Posted:
Tue Jan/31/12 at 11:18am
PinkiePie
Posts: 157
Joined: 10-Sep-11
id you actually draft?! Or was it sealed?!
Date Posted:
Tue Jan/31/12 at 11:33am
Starship
Posts: 549
Joined: 13-Dec-11
oh sorry, wrong terminology. it was sealed, and besides my rares and mythics everything was inconsistent.
if it had been a draft i might have done better.
Date Posted:
Tue Jan/31/12 at 3:59pm
darthnefas
Posts: 1081
Joined: 04-Apr-11
I love sealed deck.
[Edited by darthnefas on 31/Jan/12 at 4:12PM]
Date Posted:
Tue Jan/31/12 at 4:00pm
Starship
Posts: 549
Joined: 13-Dec-11
it was fun, i just need to get used to it.
Date Posted:
Tue Jan/31/12 at 4:25pm
darthnefas
Posts: 1081
Joined: 04-Apr-11
A long time ago (which it actually was now that I think about it), I had an idea to do a sealed deck tournament by block. You could still get Legends and Arabian Nights, etc.
The idea was to buy a starter deck from base or whatever was in the block and two boosters from the block.
(Unlimited/Arabian Nights/Antiquities or Revised/Ice Age/Dark/Fallen Empires)
It was based on the idea that people were saying that the game was a lot better back in the old days and my argument was that the game was made for a person buying a few cards and people started collecting them which is why the rules had to be changed and that the balance would switch back the other way once you play the game the way it was suppose to be played (few rares, a little uncommon, bunch of commons).
We didn't really get enough people to play it. We did a version when the first computer game came out and it could do it randomly. Revised won, but I would've rather had a bigger pool to determine how people would choose and who would win.
Date Posted:
Fri Feb/03/12 at 6:11pm
Boyachi
Posts: 1553
Joined: 02-Nov-11
Speaking of spoilers, I'm looking forward to this set entering the database. I also noticed Commander is in the database...so when can we expect Innistrad? I want to post a (legit) combo, but I don't want to do that land substitution nonsense.
Date Posted:
Thu Feb/09/12 at 11:00am
Starship
Posts: 549
Joined: 13-Dec-11
yeah it will be nice when you can check to see if a combo with new cards has already been posted.
and i still can't get over how cool this is.
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