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Title: Standard Zombies G/B
Date Posted: Tue Dec/27/11 at 1:43am

scottymandingo
Posts: 845
Joined: 13-Jul-09

Alright, tell me what you think:

Birds of Paradise x4
Rampant Growth x4
Diregraf Ghoul x3
Skinrender x3
Walking Corpse x3
Cemetery Reaper x3
Parallel Lives x3
Moan of the Unhallowed x3
Endless Ranks of the Dead x2
Overrun x2
Army of the Damned x2
Essence of the Wild x2
Grave Titan x2

Woodland Cemetery x4
Forest x8
Swamp x12

Sideboard:

Bramblecrush x3
Go For the Throat x4
Doom Blade x4
Naturalize x4

I've been thinking about taking out Cemetery Reaper for something else. He just doesn't seem to do much for the deck.
Date Posted: Tue Dec/27/11 at 3:28am

Goemon
Posts: 46
Joined: 23-Nov-11

In my opinion, army of the damned, essence of the wild, and maybe grave titans too are too mana costly for this deck.

3 dismember , one glissa the traitor ( no artifacts to bring in, but she's still so good.... ) , and a couple of call to the grave will do better, in my opinion.

Maybe a ghoulraiser instead of one of the walking corpses is good too.

And consider that unbreathing horde with your cemetery reapers is immortal.
Date Posted: Tue Dec/27/11 at 10:57am

Pal-of-Lim-Dul
Posts: 1148
Joined: 24-May-10

4 Rampant Growths and 4 BoP and you think a 6cc card is too heavy?
Date Posted: Tue Dec/27/11 at 12:50pm

Goemon
Posts: 46
Joined: 23-Nov-11

Yep.

That's only my opinion.

I use zombie decks.
Black and blue.
Vintage.
In my decks there are 4 dark rituals, but no card in them cost more than 5 mana.

Games usually end before one of the players have 6 mana.

And if it happens that I have 6 mana, i prefer to play 2 zombies with cmc 3.
Or one zombie + one ability. ( who said lich lord of unx? )



[Edited by Goemon on 27/Dec/11 at 12:54PM]
Date Posted: Tue Dec/27/11 at 8:44pm

krowbar28
Posts: 434
Joined: 18-Oct-10

Seems solid enough! Dismember would be good additions though. Glissa is great, but he is not running any artifacts. So would be kind of useless in here!

[Edited by krowbar28 on 27/Dec/11 at 8:46PM]
Date Posted: Tue Dec/27/11 at 10:14pm

PinkiePie
Posts: 157
Joined: 10-Sep-11

Dismember would be good, and i would cut essence for 2 dis or 2 grave titan!
Date Posted: Wed Dec/28/11 at 12:19am

scottymandingo
Posts: 845
Joined: 13-Jul-09

Thanks for the suggestions, they are all great!

Goemon: With all of the mana ramping I have in this deck, getting any of these cards out have not been a problem. However, I do only keep two or less of the higher mana cost cards, just in case. Dismember is a great card, especially if used with Skinrender. 8 -1/-1 counters? That's enough to take down pretty much anything. I kept Call To the Grave out because I wanted other non-Zombie creatures out (Essence, Grave Titan), but I may put it in. Glissa is pretty nice, too.
Date Posted: Wed Dec/28/11 at 8:08am

darthnefas
Posts: 1081
Joined: 04-Apr-11

All good suggestions, but I agree that the deck is trying to last the long haul with the big mana stuff and by the time you get there it's over. Skinrender alone with the Grave Reaper makes that 4/4. I like combining that with the the one that pulls a zombie back to your hand and if they block the 4/4 and can kill it you can just recast it for more destruction.
Date Posted: Wed Dec/28/11 at 4:53pm

scottymandingo
Posts: 845
Joined: 13-Jul-09

With all these -1/-1 counters, I'm thinking of throwing in one or two Black Sun's Zeniths and Ghoulcaller's Chant.

Yeah?
Date Posted: Sat Dec/31/11 at 8:47am

Goemon
Posts: 46
Joined: 23-Nov-11

Dismember don't add -1 -1 counters, just give -5 -5 to the creature until the end of turn.
Date Posted: Sat Dec/31/11 at 9:23am

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

Which still is equivalent to 8 damage, and would kill anything with 8 or less toughness.
Date Posted: Sat Dec/31/11 at 12:36pm

Goemon
Posts: 46
Joined: 23-Nov-11

Turbine... read the post before mine.
Date Posted: Sat Dec/31/11 at 1:17pm

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

Which one is that?
Date Posted: Sat Dec/31/11 at 3:21pm

darthnefas
Posts: 1081
Joined: 04-Apr-11

"With all these -1/-1 counters, I'm thinking of throwing in one or two Black Sun's Zeniths and Ghoulcaller's Chant."

No biggy, it was just a slip of the keyboard.
Date Posted: Sat Dec/31/11 at 3:24pm

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

You were talking about Dismember though, not BSZ or GC.
Date Posted: Sun Jan/01/12 at 5:20am

Goemon
Posts: 46
Joined: 23-Nov-11

Obviously.
I never mentioned them.
Date Posted: Sun Jan/01/12 at 5:49am

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

Then, why did you tell me to read his post if your post didn't relate to it!
Date Posted: Sun Jan/01/12 at 6:38am

Goemon
Posts: 46
Joined: 23-Nov-11

I try to make it simple....

Scottymandingo:  With all these -1 -1 counters, I'm thinking of throwing in.... ( no matters what )

Me: Dismember don't add -1 -1 counters, just give -5 -5......

You: this is equivalent to 8 damage......

Me: Turbine, read the post before mine.


So......

The point is: Scottymandingo talked about -1 -1 counters , I just told him that there are no -1 -1 counters coming from suggested cards. If he's thinking of throwing in some cards that really give -1 -1 counters like BSZ because of other counters, I just warned him about the different effect.



[Edited by Goemon on 1/Jan/12 at 7:05AM]



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