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Title: EDH
Date Posted: Tue Dec/13/11 at 5:56pm

PinkiePie
Posts: 157
Joined: 10-Sep-11

Hey thur! Im trying to build a more competitive edh deck since the people i play with are super competitive...! Combos out turn 1-4!
Get an ad nauseam, then draw your deck and kill with tendrils, skirge+exsanguinate, dark sphere+sickening dreams, or zombie infestation!


General
Maralen of the Mornsong

Land (72)
1x Glacial Chasm
64x Swamp
1x Ancient Tomb
1x Lake of the Dead
1x Crystal Vein
1x Strip Mine
1x Wasteland
1x Boseiju, Who Shelters All
1x City of Traitors

Instant (5)
1x Ad Nauseam
1x Dark Ritual
1x Rain of Filth
1x Cabal Ritual
1x Vampiric Tutor

Enchantment (1)
1x Zombie Infestation

Sorcery (7)
1x Exsanguinate
1x Sickening Dreams
1x Demonic Tutor
1x Grim Tutor
1x Cruel Tutor
1x Imperial Seal
1x Yawgmoth's Will
Artifact (13)

1x Sol Ring
1x Lotus Petal
1x Mana Crypt
1x Mana Vault
1x Grim Monolith
1x Mox Opal
1x Chrome Mox
1x Mox Diamond
1x Feldon's Cane
1x Elixir of Immortality
1x Spellbook
1x Zuran Orb
1x Dark Sphere

Creature (1)
1x Skirge Familiar

Thoughts?!
Date Posted: Tue Dec/13/11 at 8:49pm

lin sivvi
Posts: 1608
Joined: 14-Jan-10

Where the hell did you get two moxs and a sol ring?
Date Posted: Tue Dec/13/11 at 8:52pm

lin sivvi
Posts: 1608
Joined: 14-Jan-10

Also this deck seems very vulnerable to a speed green deck . . . your losing life, but the life gain in the deck makes up for that, but you don't have any good way of slowing down massive creature bombardments.  Also, I would replace sickening dreams, you don't have enough card advantage for it to be worth it.
Date Posted: Tue Dec/13/11 at 8:59pm

PinkiePie
Posts: 157
Joined: 10-Sep-11

First, sol rings are easy to get! Second, internet! Third, doublepost! Fourth, I dont think  you understand the deck! You tutor for ad nauseam in the first 3 turns (Maralen is the contingency plan), then play it using the accelerants! You draw your deck, (or most of it) and then kill with sickening dreams+dark sphere or storm tendrils!
Date Posted: Tue Dec/13/11 at 9:05pm

lin sivvi
Posts: 1608
Joined: 14-Jan-10

By turn three vs this deck I could have downed you to 13 easily, then you would lose 3 life for the search (10) and now you have a much smaller chance of draw the cards you need to combo out.

And for sickening dreams, it deals to much damage to you for you to be able to survive, I'd would really swap it out.
Date Posted: Tue Dec/13/11 at 9:11pm

PinkiePie
Posts: 157
Joined: 10-Sep-11

By turn three youve hit for 27 damage?! What deck do you play?! Sickening dreams is one of the main wincons! And thats why you use dark sphere!

EDIT: Also glacial chasm and zuran orb!


[Edited by PinkiePie on 13/Dec/11 at 9:12PM]
Date Posted: Tue Dec/13/11 at 9:13pm

lin sivvi
Posts: 1608
Joined: 14-Jan-10

Oh! right, I completely forgot the rules to EDH, I don't play it enough.  Sorry.


I derped
Date Posted: Tue Dec/13/11 at 9:15pm

PinkiePie
Posts: 157
Joined: 10-Sep-11

You were thinking 20 life?! Also, you still rarely hit for a lot of damage before t5/t6! Even in Azusa!

EDIT: Solitaire:
Although this was kind of a god hand, whatever!
Hand: imperial seal, dark sphere, mana vault, 4x swamp.
t1: swamp, seal for ad nauseam, 38 life.
t2: swamp, mana vault
t3: no land (waiting for lake of the dead), ad nauseam: cards hit before able to kill: rain of filth (37) Zombie Infestation (35), feldon's cane (34) demonic (32), grim (29), elixer of imortality (28), cabal ritual (26), grim monolith (24), then sickening dreams, (22) at which point i have 62 cards in hand, so i play the 0 cost mana artifacts or lake of the dead, sacrifice dark sphere, discard 40. im at 22, everyone else is dead. of course theyve probably used fetches, and maybe shocks.


[Edited by PinkiePie on 13/Dec/11 at 9:22PM]
Date Posted: Tue Dec/13/11 at 9:27pm

lin sivvi
Posts: 1608
Joined: 14-Jan-10

in that case it works really well.
Date Posted: Tue Dec/13/11 at 9:29pm

PinkiePie
Posts: 157
Joined: 10-Sep-11

As soon as you hit zombie infestation you can discard, and you can also discard with skirge familiar for  a massive exsanguinate! Ive also tried it with tendrils as the main wincon and a lot more 0 cost artifacts for storm, but i didnt like that build as much!
Date Posted: Tue Dec/13/11 at 9:44pm

lin sivvi
Posts: 1608
Joined: 14-Jan-10

ah, i found the problem, this would get raped by a kill/counter deck.  They'd kill mornsong before you got a chance to use her, and counter any tutors you pulled out.  They would have massive card advantage over you because you would be drawing mostly lands.  And even if they don't have a kill spell on hand when mornsong comes out they can pay the 3 life to find one.  I'm kinda clueless as to how you would fix this though. . . now I'm going to go and make that deck.
Date Posted: Tue Dec/13/11 at 9:57pm

PinkiePie
Posts: 157
Joined: 10-Sep-11

Maralen is not your primary plan! You should only play her if you have enough acceleration to play her turn 1, and ad nauseam turn 2! Only a few of the tutors cost as much as maralen, and if you keep the right hand you should be able to get ad nauseam turn 1-2, and be playing it the turn after you get it! My meta spends most of their first few turns ramping until they can combo, so the only spells that are really a problem are pact of negation and FoW! If you aggresively mull into a vampiric, imperial, or boseiju, youre really hard to stop!
Date Posted: Tue Dec/13/11 at 10:03pm

lin sivvi
Posts: 1608
Joined: 14-Jan-10

I only count 4 tutors (100 card deck, divide by 4, so every 25 cards, hand of say 8, means that 8/25 chance . . . actually a bit more, so about every one in three games. . .) the shelter tree is definiety (something I missed) and a big help.  I still see this deck being slow. . .
Date Posted: Tue Dec/13/11 at 10:13pm

PinkiePie
Posts: 157
Joined: 10-Sep-11

Theres 5 tutors, not counting maralen,  thats 1 in 20, so you have a good chance of getting one, and even if you dont, you can always just use the contingency plan and play maralen! And t2-4 doesnt seem too bad to me....!

EDIT: Also, you can get ad nauseam in your starting hand...!


[Edited by PinkiePie on 13/Dec/11 at 10:13PM]



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