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Title: Innistrad Spoilers
Date Posted: Sun Aug/28/11 at 6:59pm

Twogunkid
Posts: 2609
Joined: 22-Jan-10



I love her already. PLEASE LET HER BE PRERELEASE

http://mtgsalvation.com/innistrad-spoiler.html
Date Posted: Sun Aug/28/11 at 8:55pm

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

HOLY FUCKBALLS!

That card is amazing. If that card is the prerelease promo, I might just jump for joy.
Date Posted: Sun Aug/28/11 at 9:38pm

Pal-of-Lim-Dul
Posts: 1148
Joined: 24-May-10

*Drool*
Date Posted: Sun Aug/28/11 at 10:33pm

Twogunkid
Posts: 2609
Joined: 22-Jan-10

I'm already comboing her with wooden stake in my mind
Date Posted: Sun Aug/28/11 at 10:54pm

Pal-of-Lim-Dul
Posts: 1148
Joined: 24-May-10

Ha! Vampire Hunter Olivia!!!
Date Posted: Mon Aug/29/11 at 5:21am

CylentWulf
Posts: 6
Joined: 22-Aug-11

looks like vampires make their appearance again and werewolves show themselves for the first time as a major part of a set.
Date Posted: Mon Aug/29/11 at 6:19am

Legend_Mageta
Posts: 76
Joined: 26-Feb-11

nope unfortunately... Mayor of Avabruck is prerelease and Ludevic's Test Subject is Launch with Devil's Play being the buy-a-box... gonna havta look the old fashioned way... over the internet hahaha
Date Posted: Mon Aug/29/11 at 7:55pm

Twogunkid
Posts: 2609
Joined: 22-Jan-10

they ve gone up a few just today up to 56 cards
Date Posted: Wed Aug/31/11 at 6:23am

Twogunkid
Posts: 2609
Joined: 22-Jan-10



thoughts?
Date Posted: Wed Aug/31/11 at 8:51am

darthnefas
Posts: 1081
Joined: 04-Apr-11

I like her, but I've always liked Ves.  Secretly my favorite Planeswalker. 

Sacrificing a creature alone means it gets rid of creatures that can't be targeted and being only BB1 means you can get her out fast and get her to working eating up your opponent's hand and removing your opponent's field, which means she is also removing the potential of being killed.

As for her last ability, is great for breaking up a potential combo by putting one part on one side and the other part on the other.  You always end up getting half their lands in the equation too, which can severly hamper Mechanic's deck.
Date Posted: Wed Aug/31/11 at 9:24am

Twogunkid
Posts: 2609
Joined: 22-Jan-10

she gets dark rit priority over everything except turn 1 wins in my mind
Date Posted: Wed Aug/31/11 at 10:02am

darthnefas
Posts: 1081
Joined: 04-Apr-11

She does it all for the cost of a Bottomless Pit!
Date Posted: Wed Aug/31/11 at 1:39pm

Pal-of-Lim-Dul
Posts: 1148
Joined: 24-May-10

She just might be hot enough to lure me away from the feisty Jaya Ballard...
Date Posted: Wed Aug/31/11 at 1:55pm

DyingJester
Posts: 1771
Joined: 16-Dec-08

Don't kid yourself...as far as new vess goes...meh it's a burn spell target...not to mention a single swing from aggro will knock her to zero counters in 1 turn flat...sorry but it's not ftw, it's ftf (For the fail)
Date Posted: Wed Aug/31/11 at 3:42pm

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

BUT SHE COSTS 3 MANA!

(Caps lock disabled)
Date Posted: Wed Aug/31/11 at 4:00pm

lin sivvi
Posts: 1608
Joined: 14-Jan-10

yes, but remember you hurts you as well as your opponent with her first two abilities, getting her high loyalty fast will be very costly.
Date Posted: Wed Aug/31/11 at 4:00pm

lin sivvi
Posts: 1608
Joined: 14-Jan-10

no wait, it's just her first one.
Date Posted: Wed Aug/31/11 at 4:41pm

TheCaptain
Posts: 909
Joined: 13-Apr-11

If only madness was coming back, then her fist ability could be really sweet. I suppose flashback will have to do....
Date Posted: Wed Aug/31/11 at 4:55pm

DyingJester
Posts: 1771
Joined: 16-Dec-08

I fear her mana cost is being associated with playability. In which case this would be a mistake (Though doubtlessely someone will probably find a way to abuse her in a control deck, or some wierd combo deck, now that I think about it, she'd be broke with living end.) But in standard she's just not sustainable. 1BB  to bin one card from you and your opponent is not worth it (Distress is strictly better and can bin anything) nor is the other ability very good (Geth's verdict again is strictly better) Now if she was around in alara, I would change my attitude because hells to the yes! She and unearth are a match made in hell. But outside of modern or legacy I don't  think she will be impressing anyone. And even then she has to worry about being upstaged by about a dozen other decks.

Please note I'm not saying she's  bad, I'm just saying she's not the best thing in the world...but I will say that she has one bitchin' finale'...other than that give me thoughtsieze or Inquisition of Kozilek or distress or despise or dismember or duress or damnation over her any day.
Date Posted: Wed Aug/31/11 at 6:30pm

rav514
Posts: 329
Joined: 02-Dec-10

@ Dying Jester,
I have to say that i'm complete disappointed in your last post. I saw your name and opened this thread up hoping to see an Undead Rap or an in depth analysis on how no matter how much cleavage Liliana Vess shows she'll never be as sexy as that preator you like. Instead, i get some well reasoned break down of the power level in modern. Not at all what i expected or hoped for.



[Edited by rav514 on 31/Aug/11 at 6:31PM]
Date Posted: Wed Aug/31/11 at 7:38pm

DyingJester
Posts: 1771
Joined: 16-Dec-08

Liliana doesn't even qualify on my undead love scale. She's hardly undead. She's more like a demon or ethereal being if you will. Undead creatures will show off their goods. Just look at Elesh's subtle charms, the visceral beauty and a porcelain breastplate. Sure she's got a normal pair, but those hips...those beautiful hips...that's one cougar I would enjoy being taken for a ride with...

But liliana? blech! Such a sickening HUMAN appearance! I mean it's enough to make a necrophiliac give up and obsess over goth chicks. Seriously! I mean who the hell finds that stuff attractive?! Goth chicks are the worst! Perverse mockeries trying to score the beauty elesh and other necros have! Well I say nay! NAY! I say! Let no Goth go unpersecuted! Either higher a necromancer or...

GTFO!!!!! >:o

So forgive me if I fail to see the beauty of some human pretending to be undead....I mean c'mon, I'm not THAT depraved. If I want necrophilia gimme the real stuff.
Date Posted: Wed Aug/31/11 at 7:39pm

DyingJester
Posts: 1771
Joined: 16-Dec-08

@Rav: Didn't mean to dissapoint, but again my tastes are...a sin against god less than reputable...
Date Posted: Wed Aug/31/11 at 7:42pm

DyingJester
Posts: 1771
Joined: 16-Dec-08

*hire a necromancer*

God I can't spell.

^_^;
Date Posted: Wed Aug/31/11 at 8:00pm

shakii23
Posts: 5711
Joined: 08-Sep-09

you know that the new Vess has the same CMC as Jace, right... same starting Loyalty... but only faster compared to Jace... with this power level, i think it is acceptable that the first that we noticed is it's power level and not the Boob-exposure level...
Date Posted: Wed Aug/31/11 at 8:39pm

DyingJester
Posts: 1771
Joined: 16-Dec-08

But regardless those are some massive boobs...it's good...that is if you're into that sort of thing...

;D
Date Posted: Wed Aug/31/11 at 9:04pm

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

The new Liliana can't really be regarded as hot, considering how cartoon-like she looks.

Also, you discarding a card might not be too bad of a thing. There are probably going to be cards that help you to discard them (MADNESS).
Date Posted: Wed Aug/31/11 at 9:37pm

DyingJester
Posts: 1771
Joined: 16-Dec-08

Did a little playtesting with miss vess. (proxies of course) She's pretty disruptive when she hits the board, but as I predicted she dies quickly. (But it does draw enemy fire fairly well. Just don't play her against discard heavy decks...you will quickly find yourself losing the attrition war fairly quickly vs. a blightning. Over all I gotta say U/B bounce is great with ms. Vess. I unsummon your creature and now you can bin it. All in all I never got a chance to resolve her -6 ability. Her sacrifice effect is insanely good vs. protection creatures. (Bye bye mirran crusader.) But other than that I would never maindeck this walker (Unless everybody starts playing nothing but protection from black creatures.) Sideboard? Definitely, instant for of...and as far as how she does vs. red...um to quote TheCaptain...they don't call it red deck wins because it loses.

So all in all I am a little more tolerant of miss vess and I will definitely be ordering a playset for my mono-black deck's sideboard.
Date Posted: Thu Sep/01/11 at 9:50am

Twogunkid
Posts: 2609
Joined: 22-Jan-10



BLUE ZOMBIE SUPPORT!!!! My life is made infinitely better.+ Conspiracy-Any creature free
Date Posted: Thu Sep/01/11 at 11:24am

darthnefas
Posts: 1081
Joined: 04-Apr-11

I don't even mind the casting cost on that card. 

A lot of combo potential in that card!
Date Posted: Thu Sep/01/11 at 2:25pm

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

You don't even need Conspiracy. Use Changelings. But if you want to change it, you can use Artificial Evolution to keep it mono-colored.
Date Posted: Thu Sep/01/11 at 11:13pm

Bladelord00
Posts: 112
Joined: 13-Nov-08

Date Posted: Thu Sep/01/11 at 11:17pm

Bladelord00
Posts: 112
Joined: 13-Nov-08


New Garruk, Transforms like werewolves
Opinions?
Date Posted: Thu Sep/01/11 at 11:40pm

lin sivvi
Posts: 1608
Joined: 14-Jan-10

pretty cool, would be overpowered if not green, but getting him flipped is actually a challenge (the easiest way is to put down a wolf and zap it), and leaves him very vulnerable.  The second ability on the flipped version is very very powerful.
Date Posted: Fri Sep/02/11 at 5:11am

Twogunkid
Posts: 2609
Joined: 22-Jan-10

Also death touching wolves. Holding a fog for Garruck might be useful
Date Posted: Fri Sep/02/11 at 10:24am

Wolfclan14
Posts: 461
Joined: 23-Jan-10

I think the new Garruk was well made and very balanced. Cost is great, is in burn range when he comes out and when you try to get him to transform, his flip abilities aren't that over powered. Very good card.
Date Posted: Fri Sep/02/11 at 2:25pm

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

@ Wolfclan

The question isn't whether it's overpowered. It's whether it's powered enough to see competitive play.
Date Posted: Fri Sep/02/11 at 2:32pm

lin sivvi
Posts: 1608
Joined: 14-Jan-10

my question is, if he uses his first ability to transform himself, then as his transformed version can he use his ability again?
Date Posted: Fri Sep/02/11 at 2:33pm

lin sivvi
Posts: 1608
Joined: 14-Jan-10

in that turn
Date Posted: Fri Sep/02/11 at 2:36pm

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

I wouldn't think so. If he could though, then he'd be pretty good.

Date Posted: Fri Sep/02/11 at 8:33pm

Twogunkid
Posts: 2609
Joined: 22-Jan-10

I think he would as he is a "different" card
Date Posted: Sat Sep/03/11 at 10:35am

Wolfclan14
Posts: 461
Joined: 23-Jan-10

No, i believe you can not use an ability on the flip. I don;t see why you would want to considering if 2 damage is dealt, he flips and has 1 counter.
Date Posted: Sat Sep/03/11 at 7:27pm

darthnefas
Posts: 1081
Joined: 04-Apr-11

How does this flip thing work?  The card has a face on both sides?
Date Posted: Sat Sep/03/11 at 7:28pm

W@W Podcaster
Posts: 445
Joined: 01-Jun-10

Yeah, on a Transform card, it has a card on each side. Transform cards don't have the "Magic" back.
Date Posted: Sun Sep/04/11 at 2:27pm

ForgerOfPie
Posts: 377
Joined: 06-Feb-11

Suddenly Duress just got a whole lot worse.
Date Posted: Sun Sep/04/11 at 5:40pm

W@W Podcaster
Posts: 445
Joined: 01-Jun-10

How did Duress get worse?
Date Posted: Sun Sep/04/11 at 6:44pm

ghostfire86
Posts: 496
Joined: 04-Nov-09

he did not mean worse as in bad, but worse as in it is more effective unless your opponent has sleeves
Date Posted: Sun Sep/04/11 at 7:07pm

W@W Podcaster
Posts: 445
Joined: 01-Jun-10

You can't play dual faced cards without opaque sleeves unless you use the checklist card that comes in many Innistrad packs.

http://www.wizards.com/magic/magazine/article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/feature/157b

(sorry, I use Google Chrome)
Date Posted: Sun Sep/04/11 at 11:25pm

DyingJester
Posts: 1771
Joined: 16-Dec-08

I think he was being comedic...not serious....at least I hope not...
Date Posted: Mon Sep/05/11 at 11:30pm

Bladelord00
Posts: 112
Joined: 13-Nov-08

Geez


Date Posted: Tue Sep/06/11 at 12:55am

DyingJester
Posts: 1771
Joined: 16-Dec-08

Get that thing and a shrine of the loyal legions down and bam! Game over man, game over...
Date Posted: Tue Sep/06/11 at 1:34am

scottymandingo
Posts: 845
Joined: 13-Jul-09

Or use Memnites and Ornithopters. 0 cost 6/6? Yes please.
Date Posted: Tue Sep/06/11 at 1:57am

DyingJester
Posts: 1771
Joined: 16-Dec-08

I got 5$ that says someone posts that as a combo...
Date Posted: Tue Sep/06/11 at 8:46am

Legend_Mageta
Posts: 76
Joined: 26-Feb-11

Grimgrin, Corpse-Born

loveitloveitLOVEIT!!!!!!!!!!!! ZOMBIEZOMBIEZOMBIE!!!
Date Posted: Tue Sep/06/11 at 9:43am

darthnefas
Posts: 1081
Joined: 04-Apr-11

He doesn't look that hard to feed either.
Date Posted: Tue Sep/06/11 at 9:52am

Legend_Mageta
Posts: 76
Joined: 26-Feb-11

I AM OFFICIALLY ISSUEING A CHALLENGE TO ALL HERE TO BREAK GRIMGRIN IN STANDARD... AND BREAK HIM IN MODERN... i really think he is going to be that breakable... AND NO INTRUDER ALARM COMBOS!!!! hahahaha
Date Posted: Tue Sep/06/11 at 10:27am

TheCaptain
Posts: 909
Joined: 13-Apr-11

Just use Lich Lord of Unx with him to feed him tokens to consume.
Date Posted: Tue Sep/06/11 at 10:30am

gericault5
Posts: 2788
Joined: 13-Oct-09

Mirran SpyAccorder's Shield
Date Posted: Tue Sep/06/11 at 12:35pm

darthnefas
Posts: 1081
Joined: 04-Apr-11

Since GrimGrin's main ability is to untap and get a +1/+1 any infinite creature engine will work to feed him and you can use a card like "tap to deal a point of damage" enchantments to get him tapped again and have him deal out tons of damage without even attacking and then maybe Fling him to add insult to injury. 

Moving his +1/+1 counters are another route to go.

His tap ability is combat oriented, but with all the nice things out there that give you the ability to attack multiple times in a round then he could be a Terminate engine. 

These are just the basic, jump out at you abilities, but when someone gets creative and starts using something that takes control of opponent's creatures to sacrifice to untap him then I'm betting things even get crazier.
Date Posted: Tue Sep/06/11 at 1:11pm

TheCaptain
Posts: 909
Joined: 13-Apr-11

A good combination of tapping and token production is elemental mastery. infinite hasty tokens and an infinitely huge Grimgrin? pretty insane. That'll have to go in my Thraximundar EDH for sure.
Date Posted: Tue Sep/06/11 at 1:14pm

Twogunkid
Posts: 2609
Joined: 22-Jan-10

grim grin escence of gond pandemonium
Date Posted: Tue Sep/06/11 at 3:39pm

darthnefas
Posts: 1081
Joined: 04-Apr-11

I couldn't post some pics, but here are some.

Creepy Doll, 5, Artifact Creature - Construct, Creepy Doll is Indestructable.  Whenever Creepy Doll deals damage to a creature flip a coin.  If you win the flip, destroy that creature.  1/1

Elite Inquisitor, WW, Creature - Human Soldier, First Strike, Vigilance, Protection from Vampires, from Werewolfs, and from Zombies.  2/2

Dearly Departed, 4WW, Flying.  As long as Dearly Departed is in your graveyard each human creature you control enters the battlefield with and additional +1/+1 counter on it.  5/5

BTW, the Dual Lands are effectively Dual Lands.  All you have to do is have one of the Basics already in play and they come into play untapped.

Essence of the Wild, 3GGG, Creature, Creatures you control enter the battlefield as a copy of Essence of the Wild.  6/6 
(Tell me this thing doesn't scream combo!)

Skaab Ruinator, 1UU, Creature, As an additional cost to cast Skaab Ruinator, exile three creature cards from your graveyard.  Flying.  You may cast Skaab Ruinator from your graveyard. 5/6
(WTF!)

Mindshriker, 1U, Creature, Flying. 2: Target player puts the top card of his or her library into his or her graveyard.  Mindshrieker gets +X/+X until end of turn, where X is that card's converted mana cost. 1/1
(Somebody already started writting a combo for this thing)

Divine Reckoning, 2WW, Sorcery, Each player chooses a creature he or she controls.  Destroy the rest.  Flashback 5WW

Balefire Dragon, 5RR, Creature - Dragon, Flying, Whenever Balefire Dragon deals damage combat damage to a player, it deals that much damage to each creature he controls. 6/6
(too bad it's combat damage only.)

Transform looks ok, but it's kinda controllable.

Stormkirk Noble, R, Creature Vampire, Stormkirk Noble can't be blocked by humans.  Whenever Stormkirk Noble deals combat damage to a player, put a +1/+1 counter on it. 1/1
(a red vampire!)

Skirsdag, High Priest, 1B, Morbid - Tap, Tap 2 untapped creatures you control: Put a 5/5 black Demon creature token with flying onto the battlefield.  Activate this ability only if a creature died this turn.
(Yea, this thing won't get abused too much... NOT!)

Ghost Quarter is one fail land!  Talk about a card I don't support. 

Snapcaster Mage gives instants and sorceries in your graveyard Flashback when it comes into play.  There's another combo maker and a half!

I wanna know what Grimoire of the Dead does!  Legendary Artifact.

Just found Grimoir of the Dead, 4, Legendary Artifact, 1, Tap, discard a card: Put a charge counter on Grimoir of the Dead,  (too shorten) tap and sac to bring all creatures in all graveyards with converted mana cost of the number of counters on it. 
(This has a lot of potential as well)


[Edited by darthnefas on 6/Sep/11 at 3:46PM]
Date Posted: Tue Sep/06/11 at 8:55pm

Legend_Mageta
Posts: 76
Joined: 26-Feb-11

ghost quarter is not a fail land! right now im searching for my rav ones. YAY GHOST QUARTER!!!
Date Posted: Wed Sep/07/11 at 12:05pm

rav514
Posts: 329
Joined: 02-Dec-10

For those of you that thought zombies were not getting enough help:


I don't know what to do with this:


This will get some nice play in commander:


This would be awesome in a land destruction deck with stuffy dolly:


For those of you that thought green was left out of this set:



The rest of the cards are here-->Click Here

[Edited by rav514 on 7/Sep/11 at 12:10PM]
Date Posted: Wed Sep/07/11 at 12:22pm

Twogunkid
Posts: 2609
Joined: 22-Jan-10

INTO THE MAW OF HELL!!! I may run it for flavor only.

As for the mirror ghost. Flashback and reanimation
Date Posted: Wed Sep/07/11 at 12:37pm

rav514
Posts: 329
Joined: 02-Dec-10

Yeah, just not my style. So it's "blah" to me.
Date Posted: Wed Sep/07/11 at 1:48pm

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

It deals 13 damage to a creature and destroys a land. What kind of style do you have?

Mirror-Mad Phantasm is great for milling yourself, which I think will be helpful in this set.
Date Posted: Wed Sep/07/11 at 2:18pm

darthnefas
Posts: 1081
Joined: 04-Apr-11

Ghost Quarter would be an awesome card if it was like Strip Mine, but without Maze of Ith or those kind of cards in these sets then it isn't worth sacrificing a land and having one less land while removing one of their lands that they can go replace with the one they want. 

Ghost Quarter if fail.

Undead Alchemist changes their life total from 20 to 60 and guarantees that if they need something in the graveyard they'll get it and give them the time to use it.  Not feeling that.


[Edited by darthnefas on 7/Sep/11 at 2:20PM]
Date Posted: Wed Sep/07/11 at 2:37pm

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

Only if it's not a creature.

Ghost Quarter is a great card, and I'm looking forward to getting some.

Also, don't use that kind of language. Put a quarter in the fail jar.
Date Posted: Wed Sep/07/11 at 2:40pm

rav514
Posts: 329
Joined: 02-Dec-10

@turbine- I was refering to flashback and re-animation. I think into the mouth of hell + stuffy doll is a great combo.
Date Posted: Wed Sep/07/11 at 3:11pm

rav514
Posts: 329
Joined: 02-Dec-10

So, this will make riku's deck, i'm not sure about my burn deck yet:



EDIT: P.s. What's with the number 13 all of a sudden? 13 damage to creatures on 2 different cards, 13 zombies.

Are we going to have 13 cards that have the number 13 on them?

[Edited by rav514 on 7/Sep/11 at 3:13PM]
Date Posted: Wed Sep/07/11 at 3:24pm

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

13 is an evil number. It's an evil set.
Date Posted: Wed Sep/07/11 at 4:46pm

rav514
Posts: 329
Joined: 02-Dec-10

Here's another one. I'll put the translation below it:


Very nice pic. Here is the translation:

Butcher's Cleaver (3)

Artifact - Equipment
Equipped creature gets +3/+0.
As long as equipped creature is a Human, it has lifelink.
Equip (3)
Date Posted: Wed Sep/07/11 at 5:12pm

Pal-of-Lim-Dul
Posts: 1148
Joined: 24-May-10

Leave it to the French to cook something up from the remains of the creature you just chopped up...
Date Posted: Wed Sep/07/11 at 7:32pm

ForgerOfPie
Posts: 377
Joined: 06-Feb-11

Hehe... Luvin' the Human Lifelinking reference.
Date Posted: Thu Sep/08/11 at 7:19am

Darth_Mahruk
Posts: 109
Joined: 07-Sep-11

@ Rav - The Innistrad set is all about 'classic' horror. There are many references to that culture. The number 13, and all. Here is the wikipedia link on the trivia:

http://wiki.mtgsalvation.com/article/Innistrad/Trivia
Date Posted: Thu Sep/08/11 at 7:52am

Legend_Mageta
Posts: 76
Joined: 26-Feb-11

hmmmmm... i want: -mirror-mad phantasm -skaab ruinator -mindshrieker -deranged assistant -laboratory maniac -stitched drake -murder of crows and finally -undead alchemist...

hmm sounds like it could be a half decent deck hahahahahahahahahahahahah aaahhhhhhhhh
Date Posted: Thu Sep/08/11 at 1:59pm

rav514
Posts: 329
Joined: 02-Dec-10

First off, nothing really impressive released today but this is nice:



Secondly,
I think i wasn't clear on the number 13 thing so let's try this again. Obviously, wizards is releasing a pattern of cards with the number 13 on them in this set due to the sets theme. My questions are as follows,

Q: Is this going to be an ongoing pattern with in just this set or will it continue through the block?

Q: Is this just flavor or will there be a deeper pattern? Ex: 13 cards with the number 13 on them or 13 different werewolves/zombies/vamps/human etc.

We all knew the theme of this set long before now. We did not know the number 13 was going to be used in that theme. No reason not to, but interesting all the same. It's a little surprise if you will.


So .... Ongoing flavor and don't really care ....... or......... interesting easter egg from wizards and curious to how deep it goes? Thoughts anyone?



[Edited by rav514 on 8/Sep/11 at 2:00PM]
Date Posted: Sat Sep/10/11 at 7:38am

rav514
Posts: 329
Joined: 02-Dec-10

I'm liking this one for riku's deck
Date Posted: Sat Sep/10/11 at 10:35am

darthnefas
Posts: 1081
Joined: 04-Apr-11

I like that Instant!  The Flashback thing is good for the metagame too.  It's like knowing someone is holding a Giant Growth just waiting to pop it. 

Ghost Quarter
Land
T: Add 1 to your mana pool. 
T, Sacrifice Ghost Quarter: Destroy target land.  It's controller may search his or her library for a basic land card, put it on the battlefield, then shuffle his or her library. 

Ok, I've stated why I don't like Ghost Quarter.  Simply put, it puts you down a land while doing nothing to your opponent.  The ability to search for a land, even if its basic, is a card that you would want to play!  Especially in a multi-colored deck.  Yet no one has told me why they like Ghost Quarter.  Don't just say you like it!  Tell me why!

 
Date Posted: Sat Sep/10/11 at 10:49am

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

I like that Cackling Counterpart.

@ Darth

You see, there's these things called non-basic lands. . .


Date Posted: Sat Sep/10/11 at 10:50am

Wolfclan14
Posts: 461
Joined: 23-Jan-10

Well earlier last year, I wanted them for my Legacy Mill deck so if they searched, I could easily drop a Archive Trap. That's why I like it.


Another thing is, Would you rather your opponent have a Inkmoth Nexus that's pounding you, or some Basic land?
Date Posted: Sat Sep/10/11 at 9:41pm

ForgerOfPie
Posts: 377
Joined: 06-Feb-11

@darthnefas:

What are you TALKING ABOUT? That's one of the key cards in EGGS! My favorite (and most overcomplicated) deck ever!
Date Posted: Sat Sep/10/11 at 10:05pm

Dagor_Lotalon
Posts: 107
Joined: 29-Mar-11

Uhhhh.... EGGS??? what is that supposed to be? Birthing Pod??
Date Posted: Sat Sep/10/11 at 11:14pm

lin sivvi
Posts: 1608
Joined: 14-Jan-10

hey, anyone else notice that sum of angelic overseer's converted mana cost, power, and toughness is 13. . .
Date Posted: Sun Sep/11/11 at 10:37am

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

Also, there is at least 13 cards in Innistrad!

Look at all these conspiracies!
Date Posted: Sun Sep/11/11 at 10:49am

darthnefas
Posts: 1081
Joined: 04-Apr-11

Lin, good catch!  I'm thinking the guy with the easter egg idea is on to something.

I will concede to you guys on Ghost Quarter that we are agreeing to disagree.  I've never been worried about an Inkmoth or Mishra's factory or even those darn double mana lands, etc. etc.  If Maze of Ith was still out then we would be having a different conversation.   But, I want to see how many of you actually use Ghost Quarter and have any luck with it and its 1 colorless mana. 

The only land I use that's not basic is the one that you sacrifice and go get another land of your choice and put it into play tapped, so if you try to pop that you'll be doing me a favor, so feel free to pop one of my lands so I can go get another. 
Date Posted: Sun Sep/11/11 at 11:03am

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

Then, I play 4 Archive Traps and destroy your deck.
Date Posted: Sun Sep/11/11 at 12:33pm

Wolfclan14
Posts: 461
Joined: 23-Jan-10

Wolfclan14 likes Turbine's post.
Date Posted: Sun Sep/11/11 at 1:51pm

Twogunkid
Posts: 2609
Joined: 22-Jan-10

I've alradt pre ordered by army of the damned and endless ranks of the dead. My zombies will live again lead by Sheldored in standard in phage in legacy.
Date Posted: Sun Sep/11/11 at 2:59pm

darthnefas
Posts: 1081
Joined: 04-Apr-11

Okay, the Archive Trap thing just changed my mind.  lol
Date Posted: Sun Sep/11/11 at 10:01pm

ForgerOfPie
Posts: 377
Joined: 06-Feb-11

@Dagor:


EDNAE '09
Extended

Main Deck
60 cards

1 Forest
4 Ghost Quarter
10 Island
1 Plains
16 lands

0 creatures

4 Chromatic Sphere
4 Chromatic Star
4 Conjurer's Bauble
4 Edge of Autumn
4 Elsewhere Flask
3 Lotus Bloom
2 Ponder
2 Pyrite Spellbomb
4 Reclaim
4 Reshape
4 Second Sunrise
1 Spoils of the Vault
1 Sunbeam Spellbomb
3 Wargate

1 Forest
4 Ghost Quarter
10 Island
1 Plains

If you need more, just do a search on EGGS... all capitals... and see how it works.
Date Posted: Mon Sep/12/11 at 5:39pm

PinkiePie
Posts: 157
Joined: 10-Sep-11

EGGS is a completely ridiculous deck. and for anyone who needed it:

http://69.8.198.251/magic/magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/boab/45
Date Posted: Fri Sep/16/11 at 10:53am

Pal-of-Lim-Dul
Posts: 1148
Joined: 24-May-10

Angelic Overseer, very nice. Gotta love those left-handed Angels, like the original Serra.
Date Posted: Fri Sep/16/11 at 6:48pm

Dagor_Lotalon
Posts: 107
Joined: 29-Mar-11

Ah, thanx Forger. You're right. :S that is horribly overcomplicated. Reminds me of my old enchantress deck and my newer ninja deck. :S
Date Posted: Fri Sep/16/11 at 7:22pm

PinkiePie
Posts: 157
Joined: 10-Sep-11

But while overcomplicated it gives you a consistent combo on turn 3 or 4!

[Edited by PinkiePie on 16/Sep/11 at 7:23PM]
Date Posted: Sun Sep/18/11 at 8:21am

rav514
Posts: 329
Joined: 02-Dec-10

Check this Nasty card out:

Date Posted: Sun Sep/18/11 at 9:42am

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

Now, how to protect it?
Date Posted: Sun Sep/18/11 at 10:13am

rav514
Posts: 329
Joined: 02-Dec-10

yeah, much stronger in edh. Still going to be a target though.



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