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Title: lets see how far of track a thread can get
Date Posted: Tue Aug/16/11 at 9:20pm

krowbar28
Posts: 434
Joined: 18-Oct-10

I have seen some threads get pretty screwed up on here. I'm just wondering how messed up all of you are.
Date Posted: Tue Aug/16/11 at 9:34pm

Narcinek War-Rider
Posts: 1283
Joined: 16-Jun-11

I know I've went too far but I already apologized so I'm in the clear.
Date Posted: Tue Aug/16/11 at 9:35pm

TheCaptain
Posts: 909
Joined: 13-Apr-11

Question: If the purpose to this thread is to see how far off track we can get, wouldn't getting off track be right on track with what the intention of this thread is? So the only way to get off track would be to stay on track with getting off track? Think about it.
Date Posted: Tue Aug/16/11 at 9:36pm

W@W Podcaster
Posts: 445
Joined: 01-Jun-10

Are you that guy with the cat that is in a superposition of being both dead and alive?
Date Posted: Tue Aug/16/11 at 9:38pm

Twogunkid
Posts: 2610
Joined: 22-Jan-10

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXRAsUOblV4

About as derailing as it can get
Date Posted: Tue Aug/16/11 at 9:41pm

TheCaptain
Posts: 909
Joined: 13-Apr-11

Shroedinger would be proud. and not proud. at the same time.
Date Posted: Tue Aug/16/11 at 9:42pm

W@W Podcaster
Posts: 445
Joined: 01-Jun-10

Black people are so funny. Also, that DOES go with everything.
Date Posted: Tue Aug/16/11 at 9:45pm

Narcinek War-Rider
Posts: 1283
Joined: 16-Jun-11

@ Twogunkid

I saw the video, It's funny cause it's so horrible.
Date Posted: Tue Aug/16/11 at 9:48pm

krowbar28
Posts: 434
Joined: 18-Oct-10

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_U4bV-Vh4L8&feature=related 

@twogun I think this one is better
Date Posted: Tue Aug/16/11 at 9:51pm

Twogunkid
Posts: 2610
Joined: 22-Jan-10

Krowbar Go back home and be a family man

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MijeH2LJdwc&feature=related

Also IT GOES WITH ANYTHING

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0bjkM_y-Wps
Date Posted: Tue Aug/16/11 at 9:53pm

lin sivvi
Posts: 1608
Joined: 14-Jan-10

This thread offends my protest of the evil site youtube. . .
Date Posted: Tue Aug/16/11 at 9:54pm

krowbar28
Posts: 434
Joined: 18-Oct-10

wtf...my little pony, this site just sank to an all-time low.

[Edited by krowbar28 on 16/Aug/11 at 9:55PM]
Date Posted: Tue Aug/16/11 at 9:56pm

Twogunkid
Posts: 2610
Joined: 22-Jan-10

You never have to babysit your four year old sister. It makes a strong case for me moving to a state where my mom cant ask me to drive over to babysit.
Date Posted: Tue Aug/16/11 at 10:01pm

Narcinek War-Rider
Posts: 1283
Joined: 16-Jun-11

@ Two Gun Kid

Second video :WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW (And not in a good way.
Date Posted: Tue Aug/16/11 at 10:06pm

Twogunkid
Posts: 2610
Joined: 22-Jan-10

Not paying attention much are we mechanist. I watch five cartoons on TV currently and thats it. Family Guy and American Dad, Phineas and Ferb, Thundercats, and Young Justice. I do get called over to babysit for my mom a lot, because I live close enough that I can do it, so I do end up watching some bad little kids shows. What I hate though is the wonderpets. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VYPsoxpt0BU. My reaction to Nick Jr.
Date Posted: Tue Aug/16/11 at 10:22pm

W@W Podcaster
Posts: 445
Joined: 01-Jun-10

I just made a 45 minute reel of the Guile Theme.
Date Posted: Tue Aug/16/11 at 10:30pm

Narcinek War-Rider
Posts: 1283
Joined: 16-Jun-11

I hate wonderpets too. Kids will watch anything wth animals or superpowers no matter how cheesy.
Date Posted: Wed Aug/17/11 at 5:25am

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Br0Jn-d8_Co

Gengar anally rapes with Life Orb!
Date Posted: Wed Aug/17/11 at 5:30am

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

I'm gonna wipe that dumb look off you' stupid face!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AdhHa0_t_s

This is supposed to be about staying off track and you guys got caught up in the Guile's theme thing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4FqpwFTwKg&feature=relmfu


[Edited by Turbine on 17/Aug/11 at 5:41AM]
Date Posted: Wed Aug/17/11 at 10:39am

Twogunkid
Posts: 2610
Joined: 22-Jan-10

sorry Turbine it actually needs to segway from one thing to another see we went guile theme to my little pony see the transition? So...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cv26cfTYMY&feature=related. see Segway? Good Morning Everybody!
Date Posted: Wed Aug/17/11 at 11:39am

DyingJester
Posts: 1771
Joined: 16-Dec-08

So I'm walking down the street and I see this chick with huge boobs and a tank top...I walk up to her and say "Hey do you know why they call it a tank top?" She looks dumbfounded and replies "No. Why do they call it that?" I respond "Because those are some big @$$ guns!"

A straight guy walks into a gay bar, what did he say? Ouch!

Animal cruelty step by step. Raise a cow, kill a cow, eat a cow...looks like peta was wrong...animal cruelty is a good thing...now lets eat some pets!

You say pet...I say emergency food supply...It's a tomato tahmahto thing...

Do you see the hat? I am misses Nesbit HAHAHA!

Why is it a fly can't bird, but a bird can fly?

WHAT THE F@#k is cottelston pie?\

Rape: It's what you do.

Don't step on a crack...or I will f@#k you up!

TANG: Its in a pouch mutherf@#ker!

I think both political parties are good...at f@#king stuff up.

What's the difference between a devil and a politician? ONE HAS HERPES!

What window with a light shines up there? That one dummy!

Final fantasy 7 is a metaphor for c0ck block...

Banana hammocks...each time...

If you build a man a fire, he'll be warm for a day...If you set a man on fire, he'll be warm for life...

Japan: Because crossbreeding humans with everything is a fun pasttime.

Italians are drunks and can't drive...coincidence? I think...MAYBE!

Buy my kittens...or I'll kill them! Your call...

Zendikons Assemble!

Stay focused...and remember you cant buy a rope to hang yourself until payday...
Date Posted: Wed Aug/17/11 at 11:48am

darthnefas
Posts: 1081
Joined: 04-Apr-11

How many men does it take to screw in a light bulb?  None!  Now get in there and fix that light woman!
Date Posted: Wed Aug/17/11 at 12:03pm

TheCaptain
Posts: 909
Joined: 13-Apr-11

What's the difference between a lightbulb and a pregnant woman? You can unscrew a lightbulb.
Date Posted: Wed Aug/17/11 at 2:49pm

Twogunkid
Posts: 2610
Joined: 22-Jan-10

Lets see how long it takes for this thread to be nailed by sync
Date Posted: Wed Aug/17/11 at 2:53pm

DyingJester
Posts: 1771
Joined: 16-Dec-08

I'm here to kick @$$ and play dumb...and I'm all outta @$$ to kick! Wait...what are we talking about?
Date Posted: Wed Aug/17/11 at 8:23pm

Twogunkid
Posts: 2610
Joined: 22-Jan-10

obviosly we were talking about Duke Nukem Forever? Worth the wait? I dont think it was
Date Posted: Thu Aug/18/11 at 8:21am

W@W Podcaster
Posts: 445
Joined: 01-Jun-10

Don't let this thread get away from us!!! It is a thread that will live in Infamy! A night to Dismember!!!
Date Posted: Thu Aug/18/11 at 9:51am

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

How do you fix your dishwasher?

Slap that bitch and tell her to get back to work.
Date Posted: Thu Aug/18/11 at 11:12pm

DyingJester
Posts: 1771
Joined: 16-Dec-08

Whatdya call a lesbian dinosaur? A lickalottapuss!
Date Posted: Fri Aug/19/11 at 9:38am

darthnefas
Posts: 1081
Joined: 04-Apr-11

Aren't they related to the male version, Mega SoarAss. 

[Edited by darthnefas on 19/Aug/11 at 9:39AM]
Date Posted: Fri Aug/19/11 at 11:19am

DyingJester
Posts: 1771
Joined: 16-Dec-08

Screw the free economy and your government! I wanna go crusading in a b$%chin' suit of armor! Kill the heretics...except for the women...because its...a wonderful day to be nude...my name is gideon and i've done the one thing my opponent could never do...save 15% or more on my car insurance by switching to geico...FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU-
Date Posted: Fri Aug/19/11 at 2:31pm

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09






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[Edited by Turbine on 19/Aug/11 at 2:34PM]
Date Posted: Fri Aug/19/11 at 8:26pm

ForgerOfPie
Posts: 377
Joined: 06-Feb-11

While we're on the subject of total randomness and Youtube (and saying what my favorite creature is),

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXp36QbO5s8

BACON HAWK!!!!
Date Posted: Sat Aug/20/11 at 9:48am

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

Why did you post a video of some emo kid with braces? Also, it had Justin Beiber in it's name. ಠ_ಠ
Date Posted: Sat Aug/20/11 at 11:38am

ForgerOfPie
Posts: 377
Joined: 06-Feb-11

That emo kid is pretty funny, in my immature teenager opinion.
Date Posted: Sat Aug/20/11 at 11:52am

Pal-of-Lim-Dul
Posts: 1148
Joined: 24-May-10

When the Fellowship of the Ring first came out, I saw it with my buds. After the movie, one of them asked, "Who was your favorite character?" I said I liked Aragorn best, and he replied his favorite was Strider.
Date Posted: Sun Aug/21/11 at 11:17am

ForgerOfPie
Posts: 377
Joined: 06-Feb-11

How does this relate at all? I mean seriously, emo kids with braces and Lord of the Rings?

I'm even more screwed up then I thought.
Date Posted: Sun Aug/21/11 at 12:19pm

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

@ Lim-Dul

It's funny because Strider is Aragorn. My favorite character is rainbow tylenol.
Date Posted: Sun Aug/21/11 at 4:46pm

Twogunkid
Posts: 2610
Joined: 22-Jan-10

Patrick Stewart as Bambi's Dad there is a lot wrong with that
Date Posted: Mon Aug/22/11 at 12:08pm

DyingJester
Posts: 1771
Joined: 16-Dec-08

{Insert absolutely f@#ked up one liner here}
Date Posted: Mon Aug/22/11 at 6:26pm

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

Hehe, you said fuck.

Imaginary numbers exist, but aren't real.

e to the pi times i is -1. Now, you're just f@?!ing with me.

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Date Posted: Mon Aug/22/11 at 6:29pm

darthnefas
Posts: 1081
Joined: 04-Apr-11

You have officially way to much time on your hands.
Date Posted: Mon Aug/22/11 at 6:46pm

Twogunkid
Posts: 2610
Joined: 22-Jan-10

[Insert Internet Meme Here] followed by hilariously derailing one-liner
Date Posted: Fri Sep/16/11 at 10:51pm

ForgerOfPie
Posts: 377
Joined: 06-Feb-11

I'm bumping this to show PinkiePie how screwed up we can be.

GO SCREWED UP PEOPLE!
Date Posted: Fri Sep/16/11 at 11:03pm

DyingJester
Posts: 1771
Joined: 16-Dec-08

Then perhaps an intro is in order...

Welcome ladies and gents one and all

We'll have a hell of a time as nations fall

Welcome boys and girls to the ultimate show

A  list of things you didn't want to know

Disturbing little thoughts we put in your head

As you question the meaning of the lost and dead

Insanity is what our wicked race must breed

Progress is a warning we don't need to heed

Why even try to reason it now

Kill mother earth then wonder how

Paradoxicality

God-mind mentality

This is the thing called the human race

This is the thing called ultimate disgrace

-Dying Jester

Also I gotta say

FURRIES RULE!!!!!!!
Date Posted: Fri Sep/16/11 at 11:19pm

Twogunkid
Posts: 2610
Joined: 22-Jan-10

FOP you gave Jester liscence to go nuts, thats like unleashing a box of crazy inside a room with no exits.
Date Posted: Fri Sep/16/11 at 11:33pm

ForgerOfPie
Posts: 377
Joined: 06-Feb-11

I don't know if that's an opening for entertainment or a reason to commit suicide. Maybe both.
Date Posted: Sat Sep/17/11 at 2:18pm

darthnefas
Posts: 1081
Joined: 04-Apr-11

I went to a hippy event and handed out meth and guns.  Peace loving my a$$!
Date Posted: Sat Sep/17/11 at 2:44pm

PinkiePie
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Date Posted: Sun Sep/18/11 at 9:52am

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

@ Pink

Because singing is so rand-SHINY EIFFEL 65!
Date Posted: Sun Sep/18/11 at 12:41pm

Twogunkid
Posts: 2610
Joined: 22-Jan-10

Eiffel.... singing... It the Jace song time

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68ugkg9RePc&ob=av2e
Date Posted: Tue Oct/04/11 at 9:25am

ForgerOfPie
Posts: 377
Joined: 06-Feb-11

I'm bringing the thread back to show Miley Cyrus (still takes some getting used to) how screwed up we are.

yet again, GO SCREWED UP PEOPLE!

Dying, you may continue with your song. (FURRIES SUCK!)
Date Posted: Tue Oct/04/11 at 9:49am

DyingJester
Posts: 1771
Joined: 16-Dec-08

I think it's time...for a grand reinvention...of this little thing...we call convention...

I'm a violation of everything you hold dear

I'm the thing that the devil himself must fear

I'm the shadow that appears in the dead of night

I'll make death itself cower in fright

A chronicler of a tragedy most sweet

A madman's plan looking to complete

The kindest face hides the monster inside

Wake up the beast and turn the tide

Ended by the flash of knife

A corpse now, once a life

I'm morally justified in the fact that I believe

In the fact that I can utterly self-decieve

I don't need a reason to kill

I don't have to justify the thrill

Maybe I'm wrong in this thought I think

But try it my friends, walk to the brink

Shatter the compass of morality

And embrace your true personality

Nothing happens for a reason to care

Challenge my view, c'mon if you dare

My world's so topsy turvy you can't comprehend

I don't even have anything left to defend

I'm the worst of plagues, I just simply fester

Ladies and gents...I'm The Dying Jester!

Hee...hee...hee...hee...hee...hee...hee...hee...hee...HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

 

 
Date Posted: Tue Oct/04/11 at 10:41am

lin sivvi
Posts: 1608
Joined: 14-Jan-10

I still hate you for breaking my heart, after it was dead. . .




Brainsssss
Date Posted: Tue Oct/04/11 at 11:29am

DyingJester
Posts: 1771
Joined: 16-Dec-08

Ummm...my bad?

In my defense I wasn't technically responsible...
Date Posted: Tue Oct/04/11 at 2:25pm

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

@ Lin

But we have to move on. There's science to be done!

Also, I just want you all to know that TURBINE'S BRINGING SEXY BACK!
Date Posted: Tue Oct/04/11 at 2:33pm

lin sivvi
Posts: 1608
Joined: 14-Jan-10


Sexy + turbine?
Date Posted: Wed Oct/05/11 at 9:02am

Darth_Mahruk
Posts: 109
Joined: 07-Sep-11

@Dying - Dude, where do you come up with your rhymes? You need to be a goth/metal songwriter.
Date Posted: Wed Oct/05/11 at 1:20pm

DyingJester
Posts: 1771
Joined: 16-Dec-08

I do play metal guitar in my spare time...but nah it's more or less a hobby for me...
Date Posted: Wed Oct/05/11 at 1:41pm

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

On the topic of music, isn't this trippy?
Date Posted: Wed Oct/05/11 at 2:06pm

lin sivvi
Posts: 1608
Joined: 14-Jan-10

Hell yeah it is
Date Posted: Wed Oct/05/11 at 2:15pm

DyingJester
Posts: 1771
Joined: 16-Dec-08

@Turbine: This sh!t is off the hook for reals man! It's like this formula

Trippy music program + Free time = EPICNESS3
Date Posted: Wed Oct/05/11 at 2:26pm

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

Trippy shit up in these bitches!
Date Posted: Wed Oct/05/11 at 2:33pm

Twogunkid
Posts: 2610
Joined: 22-Jan-10

Other than practically giving me a seizure that is without a doubt the greatest thing ever
Date Posted: Wed Oct/05/11 at 4:30pm

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

If multiple cactus are cacti, are multiple Jesus Jesi?
Date Posted: Wed Oct/05/11 at 7:19pm

ForgerOfPie
Posts: 377
Joined: 06-Feb-11

Trippiness war!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbDFPkPgez0&feature=related
Date Posted: Wed Oct/05/11 at 7:20pm

ForgerOfPie
Posts: 377
Joined: 06-Feb-11

Well that didn't work... let's try this again...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbDFPkPgez0&feature=related
Date Posted: Wed Oct/05/11 at 8:24pm

krowbar28
Posts: 434
Joined: 18-Oct-10

that doesn't work either! no page.
Date Posted: Wed Oct/05/11 at 8:24pm

krowbar28
Posts: 434
Joined: 18-Oct-10

that doesn't work either! no page.
Date Posted: Thu Oct/06/11 at 11:10pm

lin sivvi
Posts: 1608
Joined: 14-Jan-10

Other cool things include this