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Title: Does it stay?
Date Posted: Sun Feb/07/10 at 1:56pm

Wolfclan14
Posts: 461
Joined: 23-Jan-10

Ok, say I have a Vampire Nighthawk equipped with a Blade of the Bloodchief (or any other Enchantment), and it goes to the graveyard. Then I play, Raise Dead, and bring it back to my hand, does the Blade of the Bloodchief (other Enchantment) come back also?

Or say I regenerate it somehow, does it stay on and still has the +1/+1 counters on it?
Date Posted: Sun Feb/07/10 at 2:05pm

Twogunkid
Posts: 2609
Joined: 22-Jan-10

Sorry your tokens and enchantment are gone. Unless it says comes into play with X +1/+1 counters.
Date Posted: Sun Feb/07/10 at 2:59pm

Wolfclan14
Posts: 461
Joined: 23-Jan-10

Oh, because I was at a tournament and I asked a guy who has played in Pro toruneys and I asked him and he said yes about the Regenerate part.
Date Posted: Sun Feb/07/10 at 5:10pm

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

If you regenerate it, it never dies so it keeps it's counters and the enchantment. Also, Blade of the Bloodchief is an equipment, not an enchantment.


[Edited by Turbine on 7/Feb/10 at 5:11PM]
Date Posted: Sun Feb/07/10 at 5:22pm

gericault5
Posts: 2788
Joined: 13-Oct-09

as turbine said blade of the bloodchief is an equipment so it does not leave play if the equiped creature was destroyed (it stays equiped if the creature regenerates), however, since it was mentioned if it was an enchantment  on the destoryed creature, it would not come back with the raise dead since it is a seperate object it will need a seperate method to bring back an enchantment


[Edited by gericault5 on 7/Feb/10 at 5:23PM]
Date Posted: Tue Feb/09/10 at 8:37am

Wolfclan14
Posts: 461
Joined: 23-Jan-10

Ok, So Blade of the Bloodchief would stay in play WITHOUT the Counters if the Nighthawk was destroyed?
Date Posted: Tue Feb/09/10 at 8:45am

shakii23
Posts: 5711
Joined: 08-Sep-09

To explain it clearly, let's say you are a creature in MtG. If an equipment is equipped on you (let us say, a notebook for example), if you die, will the thing that you write on your notebook, disappear? Of course not. That is how equipment works, until they are destroyed it is still there in play.

But if you just memorize the knowledge you learned and not write it on your notebook, then you die, the knowledge is gone with you. That is how enchantment work.
Date Posted: Tue Feb/09/10 at 8:48am

shakii23
Posts: 5711
Joined: 08-Sep-09

And yes, the counters will be gone because the counter is on the creature.
Date Posted: Tue Feb/09/10 at 9:56am

psyche
Posts: 1250
Joined: 31-Aug-09

This is going to be technical. A counter is attached to the creature that it is affecting. If the creature leaves play then the counter has nothing to be attached to and leaves play. If a creature leaves play while it has a creature enchantment attached, the creature enchantment has no valid target and goes to the graveyard. A equip is different since when the creature it is attached to leaves play it stays in play. It also doesn't enter play attached to a creature. Basically a equip is an artifact that can be attached to a creature, but doesn't have to be. +1/+1 tokens and creature enchantments have to be attached.
Regenerating a creature is a key word. When a creature uses regenerate "The next time that creature would be destroyed this turn, it isn't. Instead tap it, remove all damage from it, and remove it from combat".
A creature that is regenerated never leaves play so all counters and creature enchantments stay attached.
Date Posted: Tue Feb/09/10 at 10:08am

Wolfclan14
Posts: 461
Joined: 23-Jan-10

Ok, I got it down now, It's just hard to get the right info, my friends and I aren't Beginners, but we sure aren't Pros.
Date Posted: Tue Feb/09/10 at 3:34pm

psyche
Posts: 1250
Joined: 31-Aug-09

Nether am i. I use the complete rule gide all the time. Not memorized here. Also i go to judges.
Date Posted: Tue Feb/09/10 at 5:49pm

Wolfclan14
Posts: 461
Joined: 23-Jan-10

Only If I had a personal and portable Judge. (I was at a Casual game at my friends.)
Date Posted: Tue Feb/09/10 at 10:09pm

gericault5
Posts: 2788
Joined: 13-Oct-09

You can always call wizards customer support at 1-800-324-6496, they have judges on hand to answer rules questions.
Date Posted: Wed Feb/10/10 at 9:03am

Wolfclan14
Posts: 461
Joined: 23-Jan-10

LOL, I'm too lazy, and it was a Casual Game.
Date Posted: Tue Jun/08/10 at 10:03am

lin sivvi
Posts: 1608
Joined: 14-Jan-10

Customer support!  So that is how you know all this!!!
Date Posted: Tue Jun/08/10 at 11:57am

gericault5
Posts: 2788
Joined: 13-Oct-09

actually I know this because at one point I was working on being a judge, but when the kids came along I wasn't able to maintain the tournment requirements, however still find an interest in it so I try to keep up with the rules
Date Posted: Tue Jun/08/10 at 12:26pm

lin sivvi
Posts: 1608
Joined: 14-Jan-10

Oh, Ok.



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