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Title: Riku of two reflections...?!
Date Posted: Fri Jun/10/11 at 7:35pm

MorbidAnimosity
Posts: 557
Joined: 18-Apr-10

For those of you who dont know what the card does, heres a picture.


So, i love cards that make copies of things...
i already can picture myself making a deck with this and doubling season to make more copies when i copy creatures :)

but A QUESTION SOMEONE?
y'know that card that makes the "legendary" rule not apply?
well, if you had that in play would you be able to make a copy of riku as it comes into play then...?
Date Posted: Fri Jun/10/11 at 9:15pm

SorinMarkovian59
Posts: 30
Joined: 09-Jun-11

What set is that from ?
Date Posted: Fri Jun/10/11 at 10:25pm

DyingJester
Posts: 1771
Joined: 16-Dec-08

There is a mirror card from kamigawa block that allowed folks to disregard it. I think it was mirror gallery, or something like that.
Date Posted: Fri Jun/10/11 at 11:26pm

gericault5
Posts: 2788
Joined: 13-Oct-09

y'know that card that makes the "legendary" rule not apply?
Card is mirror gallery

well, if you had that in play would you be able to make a copy of riku as it comes into play then...?
no, notice how it says "when another nontoken creature".  however if you had riku and the gallery out then play another one you can copy the 2nd one using the 1st.
Date Posted: Sat Jun/11/11 at 12:41am

DyingJester
Posts: 1771
Joined: 16-Dec-08

Ouch...head just imploded. Knowledge overload. SPLOOSH!
Date Posted: Sat Jun/11/11 at 8:25am

shakii23
Posts: 5711
Joined: 08-Sep-09

two rikus mean you can copy a spell twice... or copy a critter twice by paying GU twice...
Date Posted: Sat Jun/11/11 at 11:20am

Pal-of-Lim-Dul
Posts: 1148
Joined: 24-May-10

Sorin,

That card is in one of the new Commander decks coming out on the 17th of June... Lots of insane cards in those decks...
Date Posted: Sat Jun/11/11 at 12:48pm

MorbidAnimosity
Posts: 557
Joined: 18-Apr-10

exactly XD ..

maybe i should post a topic with all the new cards...?

well anyways,
heres a link to it?
http://www.wizards.com/magic/tcg/productarticle.aspx?x=mtg/tcg/commander/cig

i cant decide which i like best...
im tied between animar, damia, the mimeoplasm, and kaalia

(which, btw.. kaalia is AMAZING, a card thats for a deck that is demon, angel AND dragon tribal, and puts one of those types from your hand into play?! :D )
Date Posted: Sat Jun/11/11 at 12:50pm

MorbidAnimosity
Posts: 557
Joined: 18-Apr-10

Animar, Soul of Elements

And was i the only one that was thinking with animar...
That it would be AMAZING with graft?! (i mean, because of his 3rd ability... :P ...)
Date Posted: Sat Jun/11/11 at 12:55pm

SorinMarkovian59
Posts: 30
Joined: 09-Jun-11

How is it possible to be from the Kamigawa block when it says at the bottom 1993-2011 ?
Date Posted: Sat Jun/11/11 at 12:57pm

SorinMarkovian59
Posts: 30
Joined: 09-Jun-11

wow i didn't read all the way before it posted lol please disregard what i posted above
Date Posted: Mon Aug/01/11 at 5:52pm

rav514
Posts: 329
Joined: 02-Dec-10

Riku does not limit the number of times you can copy a spell or creature. Its a fast effect that you pay at the correct time. You are limited by your mana supply, but riku himself does not tap or say "use this ability one once per card/spell/creature/whatever". That's why i can never get riku to stay in play for more than about 3 seconds.
Date Posted: Mon Aug/01/11 at 6:00pm

TheCaptain
Posts: 909
Joined: 13-Apr-11

No, you can only copy each spell once. Even though it doesn't say "activate only once per spell", its a triggered affect. When you cast a spell, the ability triggers and you may pay to make a copy, but you can only copy for each trigger, and the copies don't trigger the ability a second time to be recopied. Compare it to a creature like Sigil Tracer, which instead copies through an activated ability. Since you can use the ability over and over as long as you can pay, you can make multiple copies, but Riku can not. If he could, I'm sure I'd see a lot more use of him as a general.

Found the ruling that supports this:
603.2c An ability triggers only once each time its trigger event occurs. However, it can trigger repeatedly if one event contains multiple occurrences.

It only triggers once, so it can only be copied once


[Edited by TheCaptain on 1/Aug/11 at 6:02PM]
Date Posted: Mon Aug/01/11 at 6:05pm

rav514
Posts: 329
Joined: 02-Dec-10

cool, my bad
Date Posted: Mon Aug/01/11 at 7:16pm

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

@Morbid

You're not thinking like a Johnny. How about X cost creatures?
Date Posted: Tue Aug/02/11 at 1:23am

MorbidAnimosity
Posts: 557
Joined: 18-Apr-10

i saw a guy play a game of magic with this insane legacy deck that uses animar and food chain to get crazy stuff like...
casting a turn 4 emrakul for 0 mana! O_O ... 
3 games in a row he won with emrakul by around turn 2-4
Date Posted: Tue Aug/02/11 at 9:38am

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

You should run Nix!
Date Posted: Fri Aug/05/11 at 12:47pm

ForgerOfPie
Posts: 377
Joined: 06-Feb-11

Show me the decklist! SHOW ME THE DECKLIST!
Date Posted: Sat Aug/06/11 at 2:23am

Legend_Mageta
Posts: 76
Joined: 26-Feb-11

im in love with kaalia... ive yet to lose a game her EDH deck... sorry... commander deck
Date Posted: Sun Aug/07/11 at 9:58am

MorbidAnimosity
Posts: 557
Joined: 18-Apr-10

I dont know the decklist... but i know there was foodchain along with alot of creatures that let you draw when it comes into play. together that turns into drawing and making more and more mana till you get huge creatures. XD

there was animar,
foodchain,
birds of paradise,
coiling oracle,
sea gate oracle,
wall of blossoms,
emrakul and the other eldrazi titans,
and the rest i cant remember, but its amazing how many times it would win o.o
Date Posted: Mon Aug/08/11 at 9:31am

Pal-of-Lim-Dul
Posts: 1148
Joined: 24-May-10

Could you please provide a scenario where he gets Emrakul out by turn 4? I'm not seeing it.
Date Posted: Mon Aug/08/11 at 10:19am

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

1: Forest, Birds of Paradise

2: Mountain, Animar

3: Island, Coiling Oracle (1), Wall of Blossoms (2),  Noggle Ransacker (3)

4: Food Chain, Glimpse of Nature, Mana Severance, Remove Coiling, Arctic Wolves (4), (G floating) Remove Wall, Council of Advisors (5) (2 U floating), Dream Thief (6) (1 U floating), Elvish Visionary (7), Remove Arctic Wolves (6 G floating), Garruk's Packleader (8) (5 G floating), Kavu Climber (9) (3 G floating), Masked Admirers (1 G floating) (10),  remove Kavu Climber (6 U floating), Merchant of Secrets (11), Mulldrifter (12) (5 U floating), Remove Masked Admirers (5 G floating), Primordial Sage (13) (3 G floating), Aethersnipe (14) (4 U floating), Cloud of Faeries (15) (3 U floating), Brainfreeze for the lolz, Emrakul for 0

5: Win.
Date Posted: Mon Aug/08/11 at 10:43am

TheCaptain
Posts: 909
Joined: 13-Apr-11

Glimpse of Nature is devastating in Animar decks. I played against a guy who played it, then used eternal witness to return it to his hand, and then played it again. He didn't have food chain, so I think he used Phyrexian Altar instead, but all that draw is dangerous in an Animar deck. Mana Severance is brilliant by the way, didn't even think about how good that card could be in this scenario.
Date Posted: Mon Aug/08/11 at 1:15pm

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

Only if you are sure you're going to win though. Don't want to be stuck without land.

After looking at all of this, I want to build a Food Chain deck. . .
Date Posted: Mon Aug/08/11 at 3:25pm

Pal-of-Lim-Dul
Posts: 1148
Joined: 24-May-10

It just sound so remarkable in EDH to open with these cards in hand... 3 games in a row he pulls Emrakul in turn 2-4? Improbable odds indeed.


My bad... He was talking about a LEGACY deck, not EDH. Odds increased.

[Edited by Pal-of-Lim-Dul on 8/Aug/11 at 3:30PM]
Date Posted: Tue Aug/16/11 at 11:25pm

wahssabi
Posts: 1
Joined: 16-Aug-11

In the example :

I don't see how the Food Chain combo works with animar

Yes, you're getting a lot of creatures for next to nothing, but where are you getting the color mana? food chain doesn't add color mana to your mana pool. and unless i'm missing some I don't see anything else that's adding color mana to play the creature spells.

 
Date Posted: Wed Aug/17/11 at 1:33am

lin sivvi
Posts: 1608
Joined: 14-Jan-10

your missing that food chain does as a matter of fact add colored mana



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