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Title: Changeling vs. Ultimus
Date Posted: Thu Apr/07/11 at 7:00am

lin sivvi
Posts: 1608
Joined: 14-Jan-10


Ok, so I've noted that Mistform Ultimus's ability has not been erratad into the changeling ability, which implies that.
Date Posted: Thu Apr/07/11 at 9:28am

ghostfire86
Posts: 496
Joined: 04-Nov-09

Lazy wizards
Date Posted: Thu Apr/07/11 at 9:52am

lin sivvi
Posts: 1608
Joined: 14-Jan-10

Form what I believe, if the mistform loses its abilities, than it is still every creature type, but if a changeling loses its abilities it becomes a shapshifter only
Date Posted: Fri Apr/08/11 at 1:14am

gericault5
Posts: 2788
Joined: 13-Oct-09

@Lin-Type changing effects occur in Layer 4, while effects that cause the lose of abilitys occur in layer 6.  You apply the affects of the different layers in order starting with layer 1.  As a result of this for both the ultimus and a changling, the card will gain all creature types before it loses the ability.  So with humility in play the ulitmus and the turtleshell will both be 1/1 with no abilitys and all creature types.

@ghostfire- you joke but that is probally close to the reason why, though I am sure there were some money concerns as well.  In the end they are fundemental the same thing,  to so their was no need to errate the ultimus.  Now, if there were cards that affected changlings such as something that says "When you cast a changling; draw a card" you would see the mistform erattad at that time.
Date Posted: Fri Apr/08/11 at 12:32pm

lin sivvi
Posts: 1608
Joined: 14-Jan-10

well thats stupid
Date Posted: Sun Apr/10/11 at 10:59pm

shakii23
Posts: 5711
Joined: 08-Sep-09

it won't be if WotC runs out of ideas... it will eventually happen... (Evil laughter)