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Title: Union of Valakut
Date Posted: Wed Dec/29/10 at 1:27am

ghostfire86
Posts: 496
Joined: 04-Nov-09

 Gericault you know this to be true. When allies came out I instantly feel in love with them.

Wanting to take my standard ally deck to the next level I knew that it would take more than standard had to offer. This is a compulation of Ally Beats and Valakut brought into Legacy. Trying my best to fix the synergy work of the cards. Not many killer ally's to work with but by taking the few and mixing in shapeshifters the mix really works. Cloudstone Curio and exploration just seemed to be an all around tie between the two strats by increasing mana droped and the amount of times the mountains hit the field.

Looking for any and all suggestions to better make this work.


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[Edited by ghostfire86 on 29/Dec/10 at 1:29AM]
Date Posted: Wed Dec/29/10 at 4:41am

Ephemerance
Posts: 913
Joined: 18-Jun-09

I hate allies; they are overpowered unless you have outstanding CC.
Date Posted: Wed Dec/29/10 at 11:02am

ghostfire86
Posts: 496
Joined: 04-Nov-09

Look i'm looking for critic's on what to change to futher progress the deck. Yes many don't like ally's but i do and i took the time to formulate this idea of mine into a deck. So with that being said (nicely i might add) does anyone have any ideas on what i should change to this deck that might help it function better.
Date Posted: Wed Dec/29/10 at 12:10pm

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

Sorry that this isn't contributive, I don't know much about Legacy decks.

Allies are fun to play and I love them. However, they are definitely not overpowered. You want overpowered tribals, look at Elves and Slivers.

Also, if I hadn't made it clear, Allies are amazing!
Date Posted: Thu Dec/30/10 at 2:19am

gericault5
Posts: 2788
Joined: 13-Oct-09

couple observations

Harrow-Personally not a fan, if its countered your behind, and the gain is not great.  I can understand its use with valuket which makes it better late game but what about early game.  Consider this with everything the same and no exploration or such, if you play harrow on turn 3 you have 4 lands in play at the start of turn 4.  If you play culivate or kodama;s reach turn 3 you have 4 lands in play plus 1 in hand starting turn 4, which is better.

cloudstone curio-I am seeing how it works with the lands and valkut however  it seems to be counterproductive with the allies, they will lose all the counters they gain.  but it does have tremdous potential if done right.  I would replace the scapeshift with 2 more.  Im not a fan of the scapeshift valukets "if" clause hinders its potential

sideboard-scrapper ally should be added to it, so many legecy decks rely on artifacts the ability to play a card to destroy them can help alot, the extra damage is nice as well.  I actually play this with the lattice in a causl RW ally deck, with the scrapper and lattice in play it basically means play an ally destory a permanent.  wheel can be replaced as can resolve (resolve doesn't play well with the curio combo)

birds- with all your mana accell do you really need the bird, testing will answer this question but maybe replace it with the battlesinger (great card for the curio) or the berserker, good for a 1 time bounce each turn, cheap cost can easily allow mulitple drops each turn
Date Posted: Thu Dec/30/10 at 6:46am

Ephemerance
Posts: 913
Joined: 18-Jun-09

I took a look at the deck and I'd have to say it wasn't what I was expecting. It's barely an ally deck.

Get rid of Harrow, you might as well have Kodama's Reach. Get rid of Lay of the Land, it's a useless card since you don't have landfall. You might as well replace it with a basic land (or teramorphic expanse if you're looking for deck thinning). Get rid of manamorphose, it's another useless card especially with your land variety.

Add more red damage or x damage (instead of just having them on the side-board. Add some Krosan Tusker's because they give you land but if you're in need you can shoot out a creature.

You need some life gain (something preferably based on lands).

I think the problem is that the deck mostly pivots on the strategy of the valakut and mass amounts of mountains out at one time. Shimian specter would be a nightmare for the deck.



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