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Title: Answers 9
Date Posted: Fri Nov/05/10 at 4:52pm

Turbine
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I think that this is the 9th.


What Standard cards in White, Blue or Green, can destroy Planeswalkers?
Date Posted: Fri Nov/05/10 at 9:42pm

shakii23
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anything that says destroy target permanent or exile... or vampire hexmage...
Date Posted: Fri Nov/05/10 at 10:17pm

Turbine
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Nah, really? Also, I said in Green, White or Blue. I'm having trouble with control in my Ally deck. . .
Date Posted: Fri Nov/05/10 at 10:18pm

gericault5
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not many options in those colors, there is mold shambler, world queller, and celestial purge.  venser's ultimate as well,  there are some artifact options like lux cannon.  there is also bouncing the planeswalker though that is a temp solution, best bet is to counter them

[Edited by gericault5 on 5/Nov/10 at 10:19PM]
Date Posted: Fri Nov/05/10 at 10:21pm

Turbine
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I had entirely forgotten about World Queller. The only problem with him is that Jace can bounce him. I might try to get a Lux Cannon. . .
Date Posted: Sun Nov/14/10 at 3:06pm

scottymandingo
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If I cast Distortion Strike and target one of my creatures, then my opponent somehow gets rid of that creature, do I still get Distortion Strike's Rebound ability next turn since I did cast it from my hand?
Date Posted: Sun Nov/14/10 at 3:19pm

Turbine
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"If a spell with rebound that you cast from your hand is countered for
any reason (due to a spell like Cancel, or because all of its targets
are illegal), the spell doesn't resolve and rebound has no effect. The
spell is simply put into your graveyard. You won't get to cast it again
next turn."

Often, these rulings can be found on Gatherer, like this was.
Date Posted: Sun Nov/14/10 at 6:59pm

scottymandingo
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Okay, cool. I saw the ruling, but I didn't see the second part of the target not being legal. Thanks.
Date Posted: Mon Nov/15/10 at 9:07am

psyche
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Steel hellkite's ability works, as does woodfall primus. The primus can also be an infinite combo with mighty emergence and any sac engine.
Date Posted: Mon Nov/15/10 at 10:28pm

scottymandingo
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I'm still unclear as to how your sideboard works. Can you pull something out of it in the middle of the game? How is it even useful if you don't know what kind of deck your playing against and can't use any of the cards?

I'm confozzelled...
Date Posted: Mon Nov/15/10 at 10:47pm

krowbar28
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the ratchet bomb
Date Posted: Mon Nov/15/10 at 11:30pm

psyche
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Side board is for best out of 3 games. You could put all the protection circles in there, and on the second game when you know what your up swap them into your deck.
Date Posted: Tue Nov/16/10 at 12:39am

scottymandingo
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I see. Thanks Psyche.
Date Posted: Tue Nov/16/10 at 8:47am

psyche
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If you play online magic it is an area you can go to for "cards outside the game". In online you can only target those cards and exiled cards.
Date Posted: Tue Nov/16/10 at 5:11pm

CaptinFluffy
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Fate Transfer would work, but I'm not sure if you're trying to keep it Standard.
Date Posted: Tue Nov/16/10 at 5:27pm

Turbine
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I did say in Standard. . .




[Edited by Turbine on 16/Nov/10 at 7:18PM]
Date Posted: Fri Nov/19/10 at 7:24am

psyche
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What infinite mana combos are there other than Viridian Joiner or Gilder Bairn for green and black or green and white?
Date Posted: Fri Nov/19/10 at 7:12pm

SteveK
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Need a quick ruling.

I am making a Worms of the Earth deck and i need to know if i can bounce it after someone pays 5 life or 2 lands to destroy it?

i figure you can simply since it implies that the ways to kill it is a cost so destroying it is an ability using the stack but gatherer or any ruling on it i can find do not sum this up. Anyone know these old cards rulings?
Date Posted: Fri Nov/19/10 at 8:34pm

gericault5
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No you can not, the player chooses to sac or pay the life during the resolution of the ability and as part of that resolution the worms is destroyed if either occured.  you can not play a spell or ability during anothers resolution.
Date Posted: Fri Nov/19/10 at 8:39pm

SteveK
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i will just toss in eon hub. Can't destroy it without an upkeep.


[Edited by on 20/Nov/10 at 8:31PM]
Date Posted: Sat Nov/20/10 at 8:33am

Turbine
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By the time that you get it out, they should already have enough lands. Unless you destroy them.
Date Posted: Sat Nov/20/10 at 8:31pm

SteveK
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Armageddon?
Date Posted: Sat Nov/20/10 at 8:44pm

Turbine
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Yep.

http://www.mtgcombos.com/view.php?fid=2&tid=30311
Date Posted: Thu Dec/02/10 at 9:01pm

psyche
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What infinite mana combos are there other than Viridian Joiner or Gilder Bairn for green and black or green and white?
Date Posted: Thu Dec/02/10 at 10:23pm

shakii23
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Elves mostly...

maybe with Training grounds / heartstone
Date Posted: Thu Dec/02/10 at 10:36pm

Pal-of-Lim-Dul
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You can do the Myr combo with the white/black and green mana Myrs...

2 Myr Galvanizers
1 Copper Myr
1 Gold Myr/Leaden Myr

[Edited by Pal-of-Lim-Dul on 2/Dec/10 at 10:36PM]
Date Posted: Thu Jan/20/11 at 10:55pm

Icuonuez
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Okay, here's a question I've been wondering about for a while. Sun Titan's ability reads: When Sun Titan enters the battlefield or attacks, you may return a permanent with converted mana cost 3 or less from your graveyard to the battlefield.
I was wondering, does this ability include lands? My friend tried to return a Tarn, and someone else said it doesn't work like that. Help?
Date Posted: Thu Jan/20/11 at 11:51pm

psyche
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http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=205030
It would work. Lands are perminates and they have a converted mana cost of 0. It is the reason that void says all non land cards in you hand is because of this fact.
Date Posted: Mon Jan/24/11 at 9:49pm

shakii23
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Right...

the land fits the two criteria:
1. Permanent
2. converted mana cost 3 or less

As long as you don't violate the rule text or the oracle and card rulings, noone is stopping you from doing so...
Date Posted: Wed Feb/02/11 at 12:26am

scottymandingo
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Enchanting a Prodigal Pyromancer or Cunning Sparkmage with say... Phyresis (gives enchanted creature Infect) would allow me to ping for one poison counter, right?
Date Posted: Wed Feb/02/11 at 4:07am

Zark-the-Damned
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Correct - Infect modifies all damage the creature does, not just combat damage. Your pyromancer can now give players Poison, and creatures -1/-1.
Date Posted: Wed Feb/02/11 at 8:26am

scottymandingo
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Muahahaha! R/B Infect deck, here we go!
Date Posted: Wed Feb/02/11 at 9:40am

JimTilson
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Mold ShamblerAdmonition AngelGlimmerpoint StagTerastodon


[Edited by JimTilson on 2/Feb/11 at 9:49AM]
Date Posted: Wed Feb/02/11 at 11:09am

Turbine
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That question was answered a long time ago. I was looking for solutions to Jace. I decided to just go aggro instead.
Date Posted: Thu Feb/03/11 at 9:06pm

scottymandingo
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If I have Hand of the Praetors out and I enchant a creature with Phyresis, does that creature now get the +1/+1 bonus since it then has Infect?
Date Posted: Thu Feb/03/11 at 9:23pm

shakii23
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The word "other" on the Hand of Praetors' rule text pertains to other creatures other than the Hand of Praetors that has that rule text...

And it already has infect on the first place...
Date Posted: Thu Feb/03/11 at 9:42pm

scottymandingo
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That's not what I mean. I meant enchant another creature, such as Prodigal Pyromancer with the Phyresis, will it get the +1/+1 bonus?
Date Posted: Thu Feb/03/11 at 10:16pm

gericault5
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Yes. It'll get the bonus becauwse it has infect
Date Posted: Mon Feb/14/11 at 8:02pm

shakii23
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Could i ask this question again? i forgot the answer.

How many times can you mulligan?
Date Posted: Mon Feb/14/11 at 10:31pm

gericault5
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7 times 1vs1, 8 times multiplayer

since you draw 1 less card each time after that you will have no cards in hand
Date Posted: Mon Feb/14/11 at 10:38pm

shakii23
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i was right...
Next question, it's your decision to mulligan, right? even if your hand is the best hand possible, you can still mulligan it, right?

I had a causal game in magic workstation where the rule is if your hand is empty, you win the game... he won the flip... so we draw our cards as usual... his deck was the super broken mox deck... it so happens that my hand was a bad hand so i mulligan, then my next hand is still bad, so i mulligan again... that's when i thought wait i could win before the game even starts as i can mulligan as much as i want... before even finished mulligan all my cards he casted everything... the sore loser won't even accept that i've won with mulligan... LOL
Date Posted: Mon Feb/14/11 at 10:49pm

ForgerOfPie
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Yes, it's totally your decision to mulligan.

Would that mean that you could technically mulligan infinite times? If you had 0 cards in hand, could you keep mulligan-ing, even though that wouldn't do anything?
Date Posted: Mon Feb/14/11 at 10:58pm

ForgerOfPie
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After posting this, I feel kind of stupid. How many magic cards even mention mulligans?
Date Posted: Mon Feb/14/11 at 11:01pm

gericault5
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while it is your choice to mulligan, and nobody can play while you mulligan, 7 or 8 is the maxium times once your hand reachs 0 you must keep that hand
Date Posted: Mon Feb/14/11 at 11:02pm

gericault5
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i think there is 1, though it might not mention mulligan it refers to it

 
Date Posted: Mon Feb/14/11 at 11:05pm

shakii23
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So that confirms it... I win... LOL
Date Posted: Tue Feb/15/11 at 11:10pm

shakii23
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Next question...

Let's say i made Jace, the mind sculptor a creature...

then i put a +1/+1 counter on it using experiment kraj, now i can use the planeswalker ability, right? but i can use it only once.... but can i use the "Ring of Brighthearth" replicate the planeswalker ability?
Date Posted: Tue Feb/15/11 at 11:33pm

gericault5
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it will work and you can copy the ability with the rings.

however you are still limited to the same costs, in other words you can not use the -12 exileability until the krag gains 12 loyality counters, so you will need to play the +2 abilty 6 times first.
Date Posted: Wed Feb/16/11 at 10:29am

ForgerOfPie
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The rings make the combo work. Wizards changed the rules so that you can't activate a planeswalker's ability more than once, even if it comes from different sources.
Date Posted: Wed Feb/16/11 at 11:18am

gericault5
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correction, the rules have been changed so that a permanent that has the loyality abilitys can only use them 1 time a turn.  So Krag and jace can both use the +2 ability the same turn, but only 1 ability per turn whenever you can play a sorcery.
Date Posted: Wed Feb/16/11 at 6:56pm

shakii23
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But you can duplicate the effects of the planeswalker ability with the ring, right?
And can you duplicate the effect as much as you want by paying two mana or is that once per activation only?
Date Posted: Wed Feb/16/11 at 7:18pm

Zark-the-Damned
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Just the once. The Rings have a triggered ability whenever you play an activated ability. When it resolves, you choose whether to pay (2) to copy that ability.
Date Posted: Mon Feb/21/11 at 3:26pm

scottymandingo
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Is there any card in standard (specifically, blue or colorless) that can get rid of or somehow limit a creature with shroud?


[Edited by scottymandingo on 21/Feb/11 at 3:26PM]
Date Posted: Mon Feb/21/11 at 4:52pm

Seregthol
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All Is Dust
Date Posted: Mon Feb/21/11 at 7:49pm

gericault5
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Scotty

Couple of options to remove besides the above, ratchet bomb and steel hellkite, anything with annihilator, any thing with deathtouch can block it to kill it.  If it is Thurn you are concerned about Clone will kill him.

for limiting-there is dissipation field, and if you can get a -1 counter on it, most likly blocking with infect, you can prolifirtate to weaken and kill it.
Date Posted: Tue Feb/22/11 at 12:38am

scottymandingo
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Awesome. Thanks for the suggestions guys!
Date Posted: Tue Feb/22/11 at 2:02pm

Xmarksthepedwalk
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TURBINE what i have been using pretty much universally as planeswalker removal is a combo of liquimetal coating and any artifact removal card. white, revoke existance and divine offering my 2 favorites. this will get rid of any permanent.:) and the fun part is, no one suspects a thing. most i play against think oh he is going metalcraft.Then wham. bye bye jace. exiled. no coming back.
Date Posted: Wed Feb/23/11 at 9:51pm

scottymandingo
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Gericault:

Basically, I'm wanting to be able to counter a counter deck that uses Frost Titan as a win-con. Any more suggestions for something like that? I want to keep it blue, but blue/black or another dual color would be fine as well.
Date Posted: Wed Feb/23/11 at 10:17pm

gericault5
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you can play your own counters such as dispel and mana leak, though I personally like clone, clone hits the table after the frost you can pretty much lock the frost down.
Date Posted: Thu Feb/24/11 at 12:53am

scottymandingo
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Ah, yes. What makes it better is that Clone doesn't target it, so I wouldn't have to pay the extra 2... Thanks again. :)
Date Posted: Sat Feb/26/11 at 1:02am

lin sivvi
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is it redundent to have two krark's thumbs in play at once
Date Posted: Sat Feb/26/11 at 1:43am

Seregthol
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No.  Being legendary, they would be sacrificed as a state-based action, so redundency is irrelevent.

If you have a Mirror Gallery, however, having two will cause you to flip four coins, having three will cause you to flip eight, and so on. 
Date Posted: Thu Mar/03/11 at 7:53pm

shakii23
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if let's say i equip a creature with


then let's say it gets targeted by a spell with two targets like:


Will the livewire lash trigger twice or just once?
Date Posted: Thu Mar/03/11 at 7:57pm

lin sivvi
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I believe it would only be once, because it is still only being targeted by one spell
Date Posted: Thu Mar/03/11 at 8:00pm

shakii23
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thanks...
Date Posted: Thu Mar/03/11 at 8:32pm

shakii23
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how about if i have


then i cast


or


will the other 3 +1/+1 counters or 3 2/2 knights remain after the others are removed?
Date Posted: Thu Mar/03/11 at 9:11pm

Seregthol
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No.  Doubling Season says: 

If an effect would put one or more tokens onto the battlefield under your control, it puts twice that many of those tokens onto the battlefield instead.

If an effect would place one or more counters on a permanent you control, it places twice that many of those counters on that permanent instead.

Therefore, it is still the same effect that is putting the tokens/counters into play, and they are removed by the other affect.
Date Posted: Tue Mar/29/11 at 8:11pm

shakii23
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Question:

Let's say you cast Genesis wave, then you revealed Gaea's Blessing which will cause the Blessing to be put into graveyard... Will the genesis wave trigger the Gaea's Blessing ability?
Date Posted: Tue Mar/29/11 at 8:40pm

lin sivvi
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Yes, because although it was revealed it still was in your library just prior to being put to the grave.
Date Posted: Tue Mar/29/11 at 9:02pm

shakii23
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thanks...
Date Posted: Mon Apr/25/11 at 7:37pm

shakii23
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Question:

Let's say i play flash and put a Morselhoarder  into play, can i float the 2 mana to use as additional payment for flash?
Date Posted: Mon Apr/25/11 at 8:59pm

gericault5
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no, when you play flash you need to pay the mana before you do anything else.  The paying the reminder mana is part of the resolution of the spell
Date Posted: Mon Apr/25/11 at 11:49pm

shakii23
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thanks
Date Posted: Sun May/22/11 at 12:16pm

scottymandingo
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Is there a card or cards in standard that bring cards from exile onto the battlefield?
Date Posted: Mon May/23/11 at 8:19am

JimTilson
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Other than cards that return other specific cards that have been exiled by it, no.

Example:










Glimmerpoint Stag      
Vigilance
When Glimmerpoint Stag enters the battlefield, exile another target permanent. Return that card to the battlefield under its owner's control at the beginning of the next end step.


 

or Mimic Vat, Mystifying Maze, Prototype Portal, etc.,  Though Venser, the Sojourner may be what you're looking for.


[Edited by JimTilson on 23/May/11 at 8:28AM]
Date Posted: Mon May/23/11 at 12:05pm

scottymandingo
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Yeah, none of those really work. I got an idea from another thread and wanted to use Surgical Extraction with Relentless Rats to exile them all, then get them back onto the battlefield all at once. Oh well...
Date Posted: Mon May/23/11 at 7:13pm

shakii23
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that would be too powerful, imagine the possibilities of cranial extraction...
Date Posted: Sun May/29/11 at 1:39pm

Wolfclan14
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If a creature is exiled, does the Equipment go with it?
Date Posted: Sun May/29/11 at 6:29pm

Turbine
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Nope.
Date Posted: Wed Jul/06/11 at 11:06am

Turbine
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Why are a lot of cards in M12 so cheap? I saw Day of Judgement for $2 and Sundial of the Infinite is only $2.50. Birds of Paradise is also only $2.
Date Posted: Wed Jul/06/11 at 11:10am

W@W Podcaster
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Two of the cards that you mentioned are reprints, and Sundial of the infinite seems like it won't see tournament play, I think.
Date Posted: Wed Jul/06/11 at 5:55pm

krowbar28
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i like beast within it gives them a 3/3 but sometimes that is esier to deal with
Date Posted: Wed Jul/06/11 at 10:51pm

lin sivvi
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against a speed deck it usally isn't, I don't really find that card very useful
Date Posted: Wed Jul/06/11 at 11:02pm

krowbar28
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I've won games because of beast within so, a matter of oppinion!  I'm fairly sure allies can deal with a 3/3.

[Edited by krowbar28 on 6/Jul/11 at 11:04PM]
Date Posted: Wed Jul/06/11 at 11:03pm

lin sivvi
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I've won games because of it too, naturally I wasn't the one using it.
Date Posted: Thu Jul/07/11 at 12:05am

Pal-of-Lim-Dul
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LOL, Lin...
Date Posted: Wed Sep/28/11 at 12:36am

scottymandingo
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Can I use Ferropede's ability on suspended cards like Deep-Sea Kraken, for example?
Date Posted: Wed Sep/28/11 at 1:14am

Torto
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@krowbar28: I agree with you, Beast Within work really, really good when I play with it. But you have to choose the right deck to play this, because instead you will got problems... 
Date Posted: Wed Sep/28/11 at 4:14am

Zark-the-Damned
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'Can I use Ferropede's ability on suspended cards like Deep-Sea Kraken, for example?'

Nope, you can only remove counters from permanents using Ferropede. Suspended cards are not permanents, even if they would become a permanent once they get cast (they are exiled cards, permanents only exist on the battlefield).



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