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Date Posted: Sat Oct/23/10 at 1:09pm

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Would Ghostway kill tokens?

Date Posted: Sat Oct/23/10 at 1:42pm

MorbidAnimosity

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no,
im pretty sure that tokens only get removed from the game COMPLETELY when they go to the graveyard - as it is that when tokens go to the graveyard they are then removed from the game...
if a token is exiled, it will be exiled the same way as any other creature.

Date Posted: Sat Oct/23/10 at 1:44pm

MorbidAnimosity

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yes,
i know it says on that card "removed from the game" but what im referring to with removed from the game before, is a different thing...
"removed from the game" is the old wording on cards that was replaced with "exile"

Date Posted: Sat Oct/23/10 at 3:13pm

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What is your decision?!? I see yes and no.

Also, I knew that exiled and RFG were the same thing.

Date Posted: Mon Oct/25/10 at 5:41am

Zark-the-Damned

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The tokens cease to exist as soon as they are exiled, so they will not return to the battlefield at end of turn.

Tokens can only ever exist on the battlefield - they can be sent to other zones but will cease to exist as soon as they get there.

Date Posted: Mon Oct/25/10 at 11:39pm

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Are mulliganed hand considered an opening hand?

Date Posted: Tue Oct/26/10 at 3:12am

Zark-the-Damned

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Your opening hand is the one you have after all players have finished mulliganing. You can't, for instance, play a pre-game Leyline and then mulligan to restock your hand.

Date Posted: Tue Oct/26/10 at 3:21am

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how about playing a mulliganed leyline? is it ok?

Date Posted: Tue Oct/26/10 at 4:29am

Zark-the-Damned

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You can't play a mulliganned Leyline. You can only start the game with one if it's in your opening hand - which is the hand you end up with after all players have finished mulliganning.

e.g.

You draw 7 cards. You have a Leyline but no lands, so you mulligan. You cannot start the game with that Leyline in play.

e.g. 2

You draw 7 cards with no Leyline. You decide to mulligan. In your new hand of 6 you have a Leyline and some land so declare you are keeping this hand. Once all players have finished mulliganning this becomes your opening hand, and you can put the Leyline into play.

Date Posted: Tue Oct/26/10 at 4:47am

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the example # 2 is what i'm talking about... so the cards you get when you mulligan is still considered an opening hand?

Date Posted: Tue Oct/26/10 at 5:03am

Zark-the-Damned

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Your opening hand is always the cards you have in your hand AFTER everyone has finished mulliganning - regardless of how many times people mulligan. i.e. it's the hand you open the game with.

Until then it's not your opening hand, just your hand.

Like during combat, creatures are only considered blocked/unblocked after the 'declare blockers' step.

Date Posted: Tue Oct/26/10 at 9:39am

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That's ok then.

Date Posted: Wed Oct/27/10 at 4:29am

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even if you mulliganed, the hand you will get is still called opening hand right?

Date Posted: Wed Oct/27/10 at 4:46am

Zark-the-Damned

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For the fourth time, yes.

You do not have an opening hand until after everyone has finished mulliganing.

Regardless of how many times anyone mulligans, your opening hand is the one you will start the game with.

Date Posted: Wed Oct/27/10 at 1:43pm

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That is nice. . .

Date Posted: Wed Oct/27/10 at 7:08pm

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so you can keep on mulliganning (or at least until legally allowed) until you get leyline of sanctity against Burn decks?

Date Posted: Wed Oct/27/10 at 7:14pm

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Date Posted: Mon Nov/01/10 at 10:33am

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Though you may find yourself with no cards left in hand. . .

Date Posted: Mon Nov/01/10 at 10:34am

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So if a creature is forced to attack, can that creature use one of its abilities to tap itself so as not to attack?

Date Posted: Mon Nov/01/10 at 11:24am

Zark-the-Damned

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In general yes - abilities which force a creature to attack will say 'must attack if able'. Tapped creatures are unable to attack, so they ignore the instruction.

Example, Birds of Paradise. If someone forces it to attack, it can simply be tapped for mana instead of attacking.

Any effects which specify an optional cost for attacking also allow you to not attack. e.g. if your opponent has a Ghostly Prison out and forces a creature to attack, you do not have to pay the (2).

The same is true for blocking - so if you Provoke an enemy creature, or use Lure, if the creature can tap then it won't block.

Date Posted: Mon Nov/01/10 at 11:40am

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Wait, so with provoke, you can untap their creature, then in reaction to the forced block, they can tap it again!?!?

Date Posted: Mon Nov/01/10 at 11:47am

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yes as long as they have a means to tap it and as long as it is done before the declare blockers step begins

Date Posted: Mon Nov/01/10 at 12:07pm

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Wow, that makes provoke a lot worse than I formerly believed, so it can't be used to destroy annoying support creatures like prodgcal soccerer?

Date Posted: Mon Nov/01/10 at 12:23pm

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Date Posted: Mon Nov/01/10 at 8:52pm

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ahh but can you declare a blocker and then use its tap ability if it has one?

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Date Posted: Tue Nov/02/10 at 12:24am

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yes, so you can declare royal assassin as a blocker for 1 creature and tap it to destroy another. however it is still a blocker, taping it doesn't remove it from combat it will still die to a 2/2

Date Posted: Tue Nov/02/10 at 5:44am

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Lin, it still kills the Pyromancer, it just has the time to use it's ability one last time.

Date Posted: Tue Nov/02/10 at 5:53am

Zark-the-Damned

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Wow, that makes provoke a lot worse than I formerly believed, so it
can't be used to destroy annoying support creatures like prodgcal
soccerer?
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Lin, it still kills the Pyromancer, it just has the time to use it's ability one last time.
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This depends entirely on when the Pyromancer is tapped to 'ping' someone.

When the provoker (e.g. Krosan Vorine) attacks, the 'untap target creature, that creature must block me if able' trigger goes on the stack.

Once this has resolved, the Pyromancer untaps. However you are still in the step between 'declare attackers' and 'declare blockers' so the Pyromancer can still be tapped at this point without being declared as a blocker.

If for whatever reason this isn't done, you proceed to Declare Blockers. If Pyromancer is untapped now, it has to block and can't tap to get out of it.

At this point, if the Pyromancer is tapped to ping something, it is still blocking the Vorine and will likely be eaten.

Date Posted: Tue Nov/02/10 at 8:53am

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Alright, I get it now, but I still don't like it.

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