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Title: Elf deck
Date Posted: Fri Oct/22/10 at 9:48am

Atir
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Joined: 18-May-10

Hi. I am trying to build an elf deck, but i canīt do it myself... Can you please help or build some elf deck? To... 170 $? But lower price is better...
Date Posted: Fri Oct/22/10 at 10:19am

Ally Cyber Nar
Posts: 73
Joined: 19-Oct-10

how are you trying to run it?
Date Posted: Fri Oct/22/10 at 11:36am

Atir
Posts: 150
Joined: 18-May-10

What do you mean with that? 

[Edited by Atir on 22/Oct/10 at 12:07PM]
Date Posted: Fri Oct/22/10 at 1:55pm

Zark-the-Damned
Posts: 523
Joined: 24-Feb-10

ACN means what sort of Elf deck do you want to go with?

Aggro? Combo? Lifegain? There are enough Elves in MTG to build lots of different kinds of decks.

They got a big boost in Lorwyn and M11, get hold of as many Elvish Archdruids and Imperious Perfects as you can, they go in pretty much any Elf deck :D
Date Posted: Fri Oct/22/10 at 2:02pm

Atir
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Joined: 18-May-10

i think i want lifegain, but there is only Nissa and wellwisher...maybe Agressive ? What do you recommend?
Date Posted: Fri Oct/22/10 at 2:03pm

Atir
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Joined: 18-May-10

Oh and Oracle of Nectars
Date Posted: Fri Oct/22/10 at 2:26pm

Zark-the-Damned
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Aggro Elves can go one of two ways:

1. Get a few creatures out and pump them massively.

2. Overwhelm your enemy with a horde of guys.

Given you already have Nissa and Wellwishers, you probably want the second option.

Llanowar Elf is always a good start in any elf deck.

Anything which counts the number of Elves you have in play would be a great addition. Priest of Titania and Elvish Archdruid will give you crazy amounts of mana, especially when combined with token producers. Wirewood Channeler probably not worth using unless you go multicolour.

Unless you have a particular urge to dip into Lorwyn's Black Elves, it's probably best to stay mono green (not counting Hybrids).

Rhys the Redeemed and Imperious Perfect, along with Elvish Promenade will combine to give you a whole ton of Elf tokens. Lys Alana Huntmaster will give you more tokens as you play spells.

Of course, since you have Nissa, Nissa's Champion would not go amiss as a decent unkillable chump blocker (you will be able to get it back with Nissa).

Once you have a suitably insane number of tokens and amount of mana, you'll want some epic finishers. Overrun and Tribal Unity fit the bill pretty well.

Hopefully that'll get you started in the right direction.
Date Posted: Fri Oct/22/10 at 2:52pm

Atir
Posts: 150
Joined: 18-May-10

Ok...thanks
so... could it be ok?
70 cards

35 creatures
4Nissaīs chosen
2Nissa revane
4Elvish archdruid
2 Elvish champion
4 Llanowar elves
3 Imperious perfect
4 Wellwisher
2 Elvish herder
1 Elvish vanguard
1 Priest of Titania
4 Immaculate magistrate
2 Treetop scout
4 Heedles One
4 Joraga warcaller

15 lands
4 Wirewood lodge
11 Forest

10 Other
2 

Strength of the Tajuru
4 Elvish promenade
2 Overrun
2 Might of the masses (to pump up tokens)

I think it sounds good, but i need to reduce cards... but I donīt know which cards



[Edited by Atir on 22/Oct/10 at 2:54PM]

[Edited by Atir on 22/Oct/10 at 3:13PM]
Date Posted: Fri Oct/22/10 at 3:07pm

Atir
Posts: 150
Joined: 18-May-10

Oh, I can remove champions and put them into the sideboard
Sideboard:these champions
2 Tajuruīs strength
4 Wirewood pride
4 Incremental growth
3 Avoid fate or 3 Leyline of vitality

And i must put some(Maybe 2 instead of champions) Ezuri, Renegade leader in this deck...

And maybe Wrenīs Run Packmaster... or Wren's Run Vanquisher
Date Posted: Fri Oct/22/10 at 3:10pm

Atir
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And instead of... hmm i donīt know put other 2 Treetop scout
Date Posted: Fri Oct/22/10 at 3:12pm

Atir
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And Asceticism of course



[Edited by Atir on 22/Oct/10 at 3:21PM]
Date Posted: Fri Oct/22/10 at 7:52pm

Turbine
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There are so many good Elf cards, that you need a basis for your deck. Aggro or what?
Date Posted: Fri Oct/22/10 at 9:46pm

gericault5
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Since you seem to be going more into the pump arrgo I would remove the following, and add more token generation to out way them in the number game

 4 Nissaīs chosen
-2 Elvish champion
-2 Elvish herder
-1 Elvish vanguard
-1 Immaculate magistrate
-2 Treetop scout
-4 Heedles One

and i would add the following

+2 Rhys the redeemed -good token generation
+2 rhys the exiled -good life gain
+2 parallel evolution-great token producer
Date Posted: Sat Oct/23/10 at 5:08am

Atir
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Joined: 18-May-10

Thanks, but i think i let one champion and heedless one in this deck
Date Posted: Sat Oct/23/10 at 5:35am

Atir
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Ok... here is my deck (60 cards)
2 nissa revane
4 Elvish archdruid
4 Llanowar elves
3 Imperious perfect
4 Wellwisher
1 Priest of Titania
3 Immaculate magistrate
1 Heedeless one
4 Joraga warcaller
2 Rhys the redeemed
1 rhys the exiled

4 Wirewood lodge
11 Forest

2 Strength of the Tajuru
4 Elvish promenade
2 Overrun
2 Might of the masses
4 Asceticism
2 parallel evolution
Date Posted: Sat Oct/23/10 at 5:38am

Atir
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Joined: 18-May-10

And sideboard:
4 Wirewood pride
4 Leyline of vitality
3 Avoid fate
4 Incremental growth
Date Posted: Sat Oct/23/10 at 8:31am

Turbine
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I would take out at least one Ascetism.
Date Posted: Sat Oct/23/10 at 9:52am

Atir
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Thanks... Good idea... Maybe put it in sideboard instead of 1 pride
Date Posted: Sat Oct/23/10 at 10:28am

Turbine
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Might as well throw in a Helix Pinnacle for if you get mana flooded.
Date Posted: Sat Oct/23/10 at 10:56am

Atir
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Good idea
Date Posted: Sat Oct/23/10 at 11:09am

Turbine
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Gravity Well?
Date Posted: Sat Oct/23/10 at 11:18am

Atir
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Or jagged-scars archers
Date Posted: Sat Oct/23/10 at 11:45am

Turbine
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That would be a lot better.
Date Posted: Sun Oct/24/10 at 3:19pm

Atir
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Do you think i should add
?
Date Posted: Sun Oct/24/10 at 6:33pm

Turbine
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It would be good for stopping Pyroclasm and the like.
Date Posted: Mon Oct/25/10 at 2:56am

Atir
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Joined: 18-May-10

And pyrohemia... It is a good card against aggro decks
Date Posted: Mon Oct/25/10 at 3:53am

Atir
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Or maybe 
Date Posted: Mon Oct/25/10 at 4:50am

shakii23
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don't  forget caller of the claw...
Date Posted: Mon Oct/25/10 at 8:26am

Ally Cyber Nar
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Joined: 19-Oct-10

Zark may know the cards am talking about there is a 1 green mana elf that only untaps when a green spell is played give it the a enchantment that when you tap him give yourself a 1/1 green elf token when the token since the token comes in to play it counts as a green spell then keep doing as much as you like since your elf untaps form it
Date Posted: Mon Oct/25/10 at 9:18am

Atir
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Joined: 18-May-10

Nettle sentinel and presence of gond?
Date Posted: Mon Oct/25/10 at 9:21am

Atir
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Nettle sentinel and presence of gond?
Date Posted: Mon Oct/25/10 at 9:32am

Ally Cyber Nar
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yup yup
Date Posted: Mon Oct/25/10 at 9:50am

Zark-the-Damned
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'Zark may know the cards am talking about there is a 1 green mana elf that only untaps when a green spell is played give it the a enchantment that when you tap him give yourself a 1/1 green elf token when the token since the token comes in to play it counts as a green spell then keep doing as much as you like since your elf untaps form it'

Does not work, unfortunately.

Nettle Sentinel only untaps when you cast a green spell.

Presence of Gond gives it an Activated Ability which puts a token creature onto he battlefield.

This is not the same thing. Nettle Sentinel will not untap when the token comes into play.

For exactly the same reason as putting Emrakul onto the battlefield with Elvish Piper will not give you an extra turn because he wasn't cast.

What you need is a Blue/Green deck with Intruder Alarm, then stick the Presence on any creature.
Date Posted: Mon Oct/25/10 at 12:24pm

Atir
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Joined: 18-May-10

Ok... and what about
Deck 63 cards
Lands(21)
4 Oran-rief, the vastwood
2 Wirewood lodge
15 lands
Creatures(20)
1 Ageless entity
2 Jagged-scar archers
2 Nissa revane
4 Elvish archdruid
4 Imperious perfect
4 Wellwisher
3 Immaculate magistrate
4 Joraga warcaller
1 Priest of Titania
Other(20)
2 Doubling season
4 Door of destinies
2 Strength of the Tajuru
4 Elvish promenade
 3 Ascetism
1 Akromaīs Memorial
1 Gravity well
3 Ascetism

Do you think i should reduce some cards?



[Edited by Atir on 26/Oct/10 at 5:22AM]
Date Posted: Mon Oct/25/10 at 12:25pm

Atir
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But the problem is, elves are predominantly creature deck... :(
Date Posted: Mon Oct/25/10 at 3:02pm

Turbine
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Take out the Doubling Seasons.
Date Posted: Mon Oct/25/10 at 6:53pm

Zark-the-Damned
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Well, your first step is to reduce your number of Ascetisms so you're playing a legal deck - you currently have 6 of them in your Other Spells (in 2 groups of 3 - unless one of these groups is meant to be a different card).

I am assuming you are building this deck out of cards you own rather than theorising a deck to play on MWS or similar.

If not - then you need to add Llanowar Elf and more Priest of Titania as they will help you generate insane mana before playing Joraga warcaller.

I wouldn't bother with the Door of Destinies, by the time it becomes effective you may as well just go with Overrun.

Ditto Akroma's Memorial, it doesn't really help you a great deal in this case - you shouldn't need evasion if you are spitting out a bunch of Elf tokens because you should have more attackers then they have blockers.

You need Rhys the Redeemed in there, his token doubling ability is simply absurd.

Swap out the Jagged Scar Archers for Heedless One - the trample will benefit you a lot more than tapping to kill flyers. You should normally have enough Lifegain available from Wellwishers and Nissa to not worry about the odd flying creature. For the same reason you don't really need Gravity Well.

However, with all the mana available to you, you will quickly run out of cars to play - so add in 4 Harmonize.

4 Naturalizes should be an auto include in most green decks to get around cards like Worship.
Date Posted: Mon Oct/25/10 at 8:08pm

shakii23
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for elves i go with Tribal Unity...
Date Posted: Tue Oct/26/10 at 5:14am

Atir
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Oh, sorry for that ascetism :D
Date Posted: Tue Oct/26/10 at 5:32am

Atir
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And Akroma īs memorial can protect my creatures against red(for example pyrohemia)
Date Posted: Tue Oct/26/10 at 5:40am

Atir
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So... Lands(14)
4 Oran-rief, the vastwood
2 Wirewood lodge
8 lands
Creatures(24)
1 Ageless entity
2 Heedless one
2 Nissa revane
4 Elvish archdruid
4 Imperious perfect
4 Wellwisher
3 Immaculate magistrate
4 Joraga warcaller
1 Priest of Titania
4 Rhys the redeemed
Other(17)
1 Doubling season
2 Door of destinies
2 Strength of the Tajuru
4 Elvish promenade
 3 Ascetism
1 Akromaīs Memorial
4 Harmonize
Maybe there is small amount of lands, but I will try and then I will see
Date Posted: Tue Oct/26/10 at 8:20am

Atir
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Oh, no i forgot llanowar elves
Date Posted: Tue Oct/26/10 at 8:52am

shakii23
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use elvish archdruid instead of priest of titania... and never forget the one drop elf that produces 1 mana... it is one of the key cards on an elf deck... either llanowar elves or fyndhorn elf...
Date Posted: Tue Oct/26/10 at 8:54am

shakii23
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wanna try devoted druid + immaculate magistrate? awesome mana source... hahaha... wanna use umbral mantle for infinite mana?

I also use Regal force for card draw...

[Edited by shakii23 on 26/Oct/10 at 9:00AM]
Date Posted: Tue Oct/26/10 at 9:24am

Atir
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So can anyone post good elf deck?
Date Posted: Tue Oct/26/10 at 9:45am

Turbine
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Just look up mono-green Elf deck
Date Posted: Tue Oct/26/10 at 1:06pm

Atir
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Another ideas: mercy killing+immaculate magistrate makes a death combination(almost)
devoted druid+immaculate magistrate is I think better than any of mana-producers(elvish archdruid and priest of titania makes mana burn.. in cheap elves)
Date Posted: Tue Oct/26/10 at 1:06pm

Atir
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Oh sorry shakii, devoted and immaculate is already there
Date Posted: Tue Oct/26/10 at 1:24pm

Atir
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And taunting elf+immaculate magistrate
Date Posted: Tue Oct/26/10 at 1:36pm

Turbine
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You definitely need 4 Taunting Elves.

 
Date Posted: Tue Oct/26/10 at 1:51pm

Atir
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Yeah, but what must go out?


[Edited by Atir on 26/Oct/10 at 1:59PM]
Date Posted: Tue Oct/26/10 at 2:40pm

Turbine
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Doubling Season
Door of Destinies
Akroma's Memorial
Date Posted: Tue Oct/26/10 at 4:18pm

Atir
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Door of destinies?
Date Posted: Tue Oct/26/10 at 4:22pm

Turbine
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Yes.
Date Posted: Tue Oct/26/10 at 4:39pm

Atir
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Why?
Date Posted: Tue Oct/26/10 at 4:40pm

Atir
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It is a good one
Date Posted: Tue Oct/26/10 at 4:40pm

Atir
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It made me in my ally deck all +10/+10 and in elves it will be a... 10x boost!
Date Posted: Tue Oct/26/10 at 4:48pm

Atir
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Yes doubling season is almost the same as rhys the redeemed and yes, i never used Akroma īs memorial but Door of destinies?
And i should put here some Wrenīs run vanquisher and packmaster and maybe lys alana huntmaster
Date Posted: Tue Oct/26/10 at 4:53pm

Turbine
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Zark even agrees. Allies are slower by the way.

"I wouldn't bother with the Door of Destinies, by the time it becomes effective you may as well just go with Overrun."
Date Posted: Tue Oct/26/10 at 5:07pm

Atir
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Ok I put it into my sideboard :D
Date Posted: Tue Oct/26/10 at 5:08pm

Atir
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Ok, but it is 64 cards(with 4 llanowar elves and 4 tauntings)
Date Posted: Tue Oct/26/10 at 5:10pm

Turbine
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Can you repost the deck? I'm getting a bit confused about the decklist. . .
Date Posted: Wed Oct/27/10 at 4:26am

shakii23
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and also birchlore rangers... for quick elves... no need to wait for summoning sickness to wear off...
Date Posted: Wed Oct/27/10 at 4:35am

Atir
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65 cards(too much, I know)
Lands(14)

4 Oran-rief, the vastwood

2 Wirewood lodge

8 lands

Creatures(37)

1 Ageless entity
4 Taunting elves
4 Llanowar elves

2 Heedless one

2 Nissa revane

4 Elvish archdruid

4 Imperious perfect

4 Wellwisher

3 Immaculate magistrate

4 Joraga warcaller

1 Priest of Titania

4 Rhys the redeemed

Other(14)
 
1Door of destinies

2 Strength of the Tajuru

4 Elvish promenade

 3 Ascetism

4 Harmonize
Date Posted: Wed Oct/27/10 at 4:37am

Atir
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Why rangers? Heritage druiud is much better
Date Posted: Wed Oct/27/10 at 4:43am

shakii23
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oh yeah... i forgot about that dude... i was more inclined on the old elves because my elf deck was 2 color so i always preferred birchlore rangers...
Date Posted: Wed Oct/27/10 at 4:49am

shakii23
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do you remember skullclamp?
with elves it was too powerful... now try that or maybe some new cards like infiltration lense with taunting elf and we have a nice ring to it... you can draw cards 2 times the number of blocking creatures... as the rules say:

509.4d An ability that reads “Whenever [this creature] becomes blocked by a creature, . . .” triggers once for each creature that blocks the named creature. It triggers if a creature is declared as a blocker for the attacking creature. It will also trigger if an effect causes a creature to block the attacking creature, but only if it wasn’t already blocking that attacking creature at that time. In addition, it will trigger if a creature is put onto the battlefield blocking that creature. It won’t trigger if the creature becomes blocked by an effect rather than a creature.

[Edited by shakii23 on 27/Oct/10 at 4:52AM]
Date Posted: Wed Oct/27/10 at 7:57am

Atir
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And what about AEther vial? And coat of arms to sideboard?
Date Posted: Wed Oct/27/10 at 8:00am

Atir
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Oh and sorry for door of destinies. I read that wrong... I thought i choose type and then it is the same as coat of arms for that type
Date Posted: Wed Oct/27/10 at 1:43pm

Turbine
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Aether Vial is ok in Elf decks. I would put it in.

As Shakii said, Infiltration Lens and Skullclamp are great ideas.
Date Posted: Wed Oct/27/10 at 1:56pm

Atir
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Yes, but there is 65 cards! With infiltration(4) skullclamp(4) and aether vial(1-bigger price) it would be 74 cards!
Date Posted: Wed Oct/27/10 at 4:37pm

Atir
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Hey and what about
? With my lifegain and floods of mana it wouldnīt be any problem!
Date Posted: Wed Oct/27/10 at 6:53pm

Turbine
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I guess that you should keep the deck based on the theme.
Date Posted: Wed Oct/27/10 at 7:06pm

shakii23
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well, that's still alright... i did it once... when i was out of cards to put in... back when i was new and my cards were still limited...

[Edited by shakii23 on 27/Oct/10 at 7:11PM]
Date Posted: Thu Oct/28/10 at 12:18pm

Atir
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I take out strength of the taujuru
Date Posted: Thu Oct/28/10 at 12:24pm

Turbine
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It's easier to take cards out than put them in.
Date Posted: Thu Oct/28/10 at 7:14pm

shakii23
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go elf-fireball... hahaha
Date Posted: Thu Oct/28/10 at 8:19pm

Turbine
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That would be. . .different.
Date Posted: Fri Oct/29/10 at 6:22am

shakii23
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but effective...
Date Posted: Fri Oct/29/10 at 8:32am

Atir
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Ezuri, renegade leader would be nice... but imust finally take out some cards and make finished deck
Date Posted: Fri Oct/29/10 at 9:33am

Atir
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And maybe ambush commander
Date Posted: Fri Oct/29/10 at 10:52am

Atir
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Or genesis wave
Date Posted: Fri Oct/29/10 at 12:18pm

Atir
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And i need realy some graveyard-takers... so... any ideas? Like
Date Posted: Fri Oct/29/10 at 12:20pm

Atir
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And maybe some
?
Date Posted: Fri Oct/29/10 at 1:18pm

Atir
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Or
...
Date Posted: Fri Oct/29/10 at 2:33pm

Turbine
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Upwelling is great.
Date Posted: Fri Oct/29/10 at 2:39pm

Atir
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Yes, but i want to finish my deck andbuy him finally... Can anyone post good ideas to take out and in cards?
Date Posted: Fri Oct/29/10 at 2:43pm

Turbine
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If you are going aggro, take out all the life-gain cards. If you are going life-gain, take out some of the aggro cards.
Date Posted: Fri Oct/29/10 at 2:56pm

Atir
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I want play aggro, but lifegain is my only protect from flying cratures! Maybe i can put them to sideboard...
Date Posted: Fri Oct/29/10 at 3:17pm

Turbine
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Put in that archer that you were talking about earlier then!
Date Posted: Fri Oct/29/10 at 3:21pm

Atir
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Ok... so... wellwisher -2 and jagged-scar archers +2?
Date Posted: Fri Oct/29/10 at 4:36pm

Atir
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So can you post the final form of this deck? I want tu buy it  and play :D
Date Posted: Fri Oct/29/10 at 4:59pm

Atir
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Or maybe
Date Posted: Fri Oct/29/10 at 8:33pm

EPAPOD
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Hey if u wish to go standard this is what i am trying out atm...just got back into magic start of summer after being away for quite a few yrs and i love green.

Lands

20x forest

2x tectonic edge

Creatures

2x Ezuri,Renegade Leader

4x Elvish Arachdruid

4xllanowar elves

3xleatherback baloth(3 green for a 4/5 cant go wrong)

3xnissa revanee

2x eldrazi monument(with Nissa this card is great)

3xsword of body and mind(not bad just started testing this)

3x garuk wildspeaker(more mana,tokens and overrun cant go wrong)

4xnissa chosen

4x arbor elf

4x sylvan ranger(its a elf and gets land out of deck)

Spells

3xgenesis wave(with amount of mana i produce this is amazing)


 

 

Sideboard

4xLeyline of vitality(seeing more mono red in standard tourney's

4xObsinate Baloths(good against red but might take him out)

3xnaturalize(scars is reason for this now)

2xtajuru preserver( this might come in more handy)

2xsummoning trap(for blue/white control)


[Edited by epapod on 29/Oct/10 at 8:35PM]
Date Posted: Sat Oct/30/10 at 3:45am

Atir
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No... elves are bad in standard and legacy... i want to play it in vintage and standard
Date Posted: Sat Oct/30/10 at 5:08am

Atir
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Oh, what did i write? :D i mean elves are bad in standard and extended. I want play vintage and legacy...
Date Posted: Sat Oct/30/10 at 6:42am

EPAPOD
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Elves are far from bad in standard..i usually can win 75% of the time with my elf deck.  You worry too much about flying(plummet in sideboard than). That's why i got to eldrazi monuments in deck usually when i get this out its game over cause opponent cant deal with it especially when i got Nissa out and i can just keep sacrificing the chosen's to it and get em back or if i have mass elves out and no Nissa i still can win it. The only problem i have but very close good games i have are mono red but thats why i have Leylene's in sideboard. Didn't think anyone played Vintage still.  I am thinking of tweaking the deck and maybe put a couple of Ascetism in deck( red and black would have hard time playing me)
Date Posted: Sat Oct/30/10 at 8:44am

Turbine
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75% of the time? How bad are the players at your FNM???
Date Posted: Sat Oct/30/10 at 1:31pm

EPAPOD
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actually they are quite good just once i get monument out its pretty hard to beat(Easily beats white/blue control as they rely on day of judgment for creature removal and cant use that when monument is out) Only deck i have probs with are mono red burn(just plains kill me too fast and my creatures). Genisis wave is too good.

I probably will in the future do a Ooze/masticore deck with lvl up creatures.
Date Posted: Sat Oct/30/10 at 1:34pm

Turbine
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They would use Jace to keep you drawing lands, then Revoke Existence your Monument, and then play Day of Judgement.
Date Posted: Sat Oct/30/10 at 1:43pm

EPAPOD
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Im actually not worried about jace and when i go sideboard i take all artifacts out and let them waste artifact removal cards on nothing. And i will probably play that new green creature that gives all my green creatures intimadate(typo lol)
Date Posted: Sat Oct/30/10 at 1:51pm

Atir
Posts: 150
Joined: 18-May-10

What do you think about Defense of the heart?
Date Posted: Sat Oct/30/10 at 2:55pm

Atir
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Small amount of lands... I need... 15 lands? Maybe? But then i must reduce cards
Date Posted: Sat Oct/30/10 at 4:08pm

Turbine
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Make sure to have fetch-lands and the sort.
Date Posted: Sat Oct/30/10 at 4:23pm

Atir
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I never get the idea of land fetchers... it is a much better, when you get a real land, no?(I donīt count special lands)
Date Posted: Sat Oct/30/10 at 5:31pm

Turbine
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You want to get a real land late game?
Date Posted: Sat Oct/30/10 at 8:07pm

EPAPOD
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I think wat Turbine is telling u is fetch lands are great. Weeds out lands from your deck. I see many mono decks use em. I like sylvan ranger cause it gets me chump blocker and gets a land for me at the same time.
Date Posted: Sat Oct/30/10 at 9:15pm

Turbine
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Yep. You always want to take out lands. That's the only reason that I have Harrow in my deck.
Date Posted: Sun Oct/31/10 at 1:43am

gericault5
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Personally i don't like fetches in mono-colored elf decks, most fetchs are cipt either in thats how they come in or the fetched comes in.  I feel any cipt lands are to slow for elves which rely on speed, combine that with the fact you usually don't need as much lands as other decks the need to thin your deck is not as great and frankly I don't think its worth the 25 you would pay per fetch to sacrifice the speed of the deck.

Also concerning the 75%, what sort of crap players- comments from above.  personaly with the elves currently in standard 75 is not bad.  They have gotten some good cards but as a whole they are nowhere near the power levels people associate elves with
Date Posted: Sun Oct/31/10 at 5:54am

Atir
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I wish some good elf cards in Mirrodin besieged...
Date Posted: Sun Oct/31/10 at 6:31am

Atir
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Ok... can ANYONE POST FINAL FORM OF THIS DECK????(oh and i think  chameleon colossus wouldnīt be a bad idea)
Date Posted: Sun Oct/31/10 at 2:37pm

Atir
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Wort, the Raidmother is nice, no? When I play elvish promenade and i have 6 elves, i get... 96 tokens :D
Date Posted: Sun Oct/31/10 at 3:02pm

Atir
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oh, no i will get 192 tokens(i donīt counted that small goblins)
Date Posted: Sun Oct/31/10 at 4:22pm

EPAPOD
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Yeah i dont play fetch lands in elf deck either(besides sylvan ranger for basic forest).
Date Posted: Sun Oct/31/10 at 6:11pm

gericault5
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Wort, the Raidmother is nice, no? When I play elvish promenade and i have 6 elves, i get... 96 tokens :D

no you get 18 tokens-6 tokens for the copy and when the orignal resolves the tokens are already in play you get 12 more.

you can only conspire 1 time per instance of conspire.

 also when revering to fetch lands they mean stuff like terramorphic expanse, misty rainforest, etc basically lands that can find other lands usually for a sacrifice of itself.

Also atir-looking at the 1st post this is your deck shouldn't you be the one posting the current form, i don't know if anyone else is keeping track



[Edited by gericault5 on 31/Oct/10 at 6:13PM]
Date Posted: Sun Oct/31/10 at 8:37pm

Turbine
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Conspire only works once. . .
Date Posted: Sun Oct/31/10 at 8:47pm

EPAPOD
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lol ive lost tracked cause he is constantly mentioning new cards to put in his deck.

I agree your thread u post current deck.Than ask if it need changes.
Date Posted: Mon Nov/01/10 at 6:28am

Atir
Posts: 150
Joined: 18-May-10

lol, but i am still finding new cards! I can't repost the deck always, when i find good card!



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