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Title: Sliver Armageddon
Date Posted: Tue Nov/24/09 at 6:02am

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

What is everyone's view on Slivers. Personally, I think that they are the best creature type. Massive ability gain, what can get better than that. One problem, Wrath of God and other mass removal spells.
Date Posted: Tue Nov/24/09 at 2:57pm

DyingJester
Posts: 1771
Joined: 16-Dec-08

Slivers are indeed a great deck type,and they are very difficult to cope with if they're allowed to build up over time. I personally hate Sliver Queen, so many 1/1's...so many...so many...my elf deck was horribly outnumbered that day, and having coat of arms in play didn't make things any better honestly.
Date Posted: Tue Nov/24/09 at 8:08pm

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

Wow, that's a first. An Elf deck being outnumbered.
Date Posted: Tue Nov/24/09 at 8:38pm

DyingJester
Posts: 1771
Joined: 16-Dec-08

It was horrible, first Sliver Queen, followed by ashnod's altar and a heartstone, next thing you know 78 billion of the little suckers in play, each getting +1/+1 for each of them in play, due to the stupidity of me casting coat of arms and hoping to win next turn, via predatory focus. Much to my dismay Reflex sliver put and end to my delusions of a victory that turn.
Date Posted: Tue Nov/24/09 at 9:33pm

shakii23
Posts: 5711
Joined: 08-Sep-09

Although slivers are strong when setup, overall elves are faster...
Date Posted: Tue Nov/24/09 at 9:34pm

shakii23
Posts: 5711
Joined: 08-Sep-09

But in the other hand slivers have Sliver Legion... Elves only have alpha status fot them... They also have sliver overlord...
Date Posted: Tue Nov/24/09 at 9:48pm

bloodwi11
Posts: 34
Joined: 31-Oct-09

I loath them.. only one guy plays them and people walk away from a game before it starts. he uses a altar to deck you and gemhides get out there way way to fast. it just sucks.
Date Posted: Tue Nov/24/09 at 10:38pm

shakii23
Posts: 5711
Joined: 08-Sep-09

And one more thing, Elves have "anti-Wrath of God" card on its lineup namely Caller of the Claw... But overall slivers are too imbalanced.. DAMN those wizards that unleashed them (pertaining to the story not the Wizards of the Coast).
Date Posted: Tue Nov/24/09 at 11:30pm

DyingJester
Posts: 1771
Joined: 16-Dec-08

At least there's still one hope...changelings!
Date Posted: Thu Nov/26/09 at 6:56pm

shakii23
Posts: 5711
Joined: 08-Sep-09

Yup changeling could be the only tribe you can use against Slivers... But we can consider it a Sliver deck too, if it's playing against sliver deck right?
Date Posted: Thu Nov/26/09 at 10:53pm

DyingJester
Posts: 1771
Joined: 16-Dec-08

Hmmm...your right, so does this mean the only way to beat slivers is with...slivers? NOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!
Date Posted: Sat Nov/28/09 at 12:11am

gericault5
Posts: 2788
Joined: 13-Oct-09

What I have realized about playing my friends sliver decks is they are truly a numbers tribe the more of them there are the better and harder they are, but with only a few out they are very managable.  Heavy aggro and control decks stand a good chance against them, by not allowing them a chance to gain ground.

As for a tribes, can a specfic one beat them, on there own, without instants/sorcery, not really --without being able to deal with specific slivers it makes it easier for them to mass in power.  outside changlings, wizards probally have the best chance as they offer a large enough range of abilities with which to keep them under control, such as burn, bounce, and counter, but then again through in a hivestone and anyone can
Date Posted: Sat Nov/28/09 at 1:29am

ghostfire86
Posts: 496
Joined: 04-Nov-09

Amazingly Slivers, as hated and loved as they are, were the first legit tribe that MTG actually came out. I really wonder if R&D actually realized when they first played with the concept of slivers how broken the tribe would actually be. First brought in during tempest, they were reborn in onslaught (Due to genetic research for those who follows the stories), and i think it was the futuresight block after that.

Given time i would consider them to become much more worse and diverse than any other tribe could possibly strive for. The day you see people stop playing sliver decks is the day that you will see all tribal decks slowly go away.
Date Posted: Sat Dec/05/09 at 3:06pm

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

I managed to beat Slivers with a horrible Grixis deck. He played Quick Sliver, Clot Sliver, and Homing Sliver. Without my burn spells in there, I would have been murdered.
Date Posted: Wed Dec/09/09 at 10:52pm

ghostfire86
Posts: 496
Joined: 04-Nov-09

Turbine having fun with the new message tools?
Date Posted: Wed Dec/09/09 at 10:52pm

ghostfire86
Posts: 496
Joined: 04-Nov-09

Turbine having fun with the new message tools?
Date Posted: Thu Dec/10/09 at 2:26pm

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

maybe. . .

Evil cackle and clash of thunder
Date Posted: Thu Dec/10/09 at 8:09pm

PHATGROWER
Posts: 37
Joined: 20-Nov-09

peacekeeper and damage life spells
Date Posted: Thu Feb/11/10 at 5:02am

rubbafish
Posts: 26
Joined: 10-Feb-10

Well the obvious answer is Engineered Plague but that is illegal in most formats. A Sliver deck can be managed, especially with a red deck, if you are able to destroy each sliver as it appears. Many of them are only 1/1 or 2/2 so a bunch of shocks and you have time to get yourself together. A goblin/direct damage deck can work well due to it's speed.

My friend has a pretty awesome Sliver deck but he always struggles because I have changelings. So much fun that one creatue type could screw everything.
Date Posted: Thu Feb/11/10 at 11:08am

Twogunkid
Posts: 2609
Joined: 22-Jan-10

They key for a sliver deck is to carry a few counter spells. My deck is 20 land 4 counter spells and 36 slivers with a 6 card sideboard.
Date Posted: Thu Feb/11/10 at 2:12pm

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

Root sliver



[Edited by Turbine on 11/Feb/10 at 2:13PM]
Date Posted: Thu Feb/11/10 at 2:49pm

rubbafish
Posts: 26
Joined: 10-Feb-10

Good against a blue deck, Crystalline Sliver would be my choice though.
Date Posted: Tue Feb/16/10 at 8:12pm

shakii23
Posts: 5711
Joined: 08-Sep-09

Only problem of slivers are Mass Removal Spells.. Correct me if i'm wrong but, slivers still has no sliver that gives indestructible on their tribe.. It will be too imbalanced if WotC put a sliver that gives indestructible.. LOL.. Scary..
Date Posted: Wed Feb/17/10 at 1:06am

Superbrage
Posts: 40
Joined: 13-Jan-10

I play Extinction, it sorts most tribe based decks. And whit Sadistic Glee it works wonders.
Date Posted: Wed Feb/17/10 at 5:47am

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

The Sliver that says pay 2 life to return any Sliver to your hand will let you keep your creatures. Also, you can use the Sliver that says to sac a Sliver to gain 2 life.
Date Posted: Wed Feb/24/10 at 9:34pm

meisveerysmurt
Posts: 31
Joined: 01-Jan-10

i easily managed that pre-made sliver shiny deck with my burn deck and discard deck thought then again it is a pre-made deck.
Date Posted: Wed Feb/24/10 at 9:46pm

ghostfire86
Posts: 496
Joined: 04-Nov-09

Ally is the new watered down version of sliver personally. I hope they keep the allys. Also being a numbers tribe they can easily get very vicious very quickly.
Date Posted: Wed Feb/24/10 at 10:02pm

CaptinFluffy
Posts: 97
Joined: 22-Feb-10

The power of slivers is with the deck maker not the deck itself. It takes a lot of talent and thought to make slivers work right. The two premade sliver decks\' I\'ve seen I\'ve easily beaten with with a balanced Grixis deck. The one hand-made by my friend was a wreaked havoc. The only way to really deal with them is a burn deck.
Date Posted: Wed Feb/24/10 at 10:07pm

meisveerysmurt
Posts: 31
Joined: 01-Jan-10

any creature type can get annoying if you cant get rid of your opponents creatures the allys in my opinion are not as good as slivers due to the fact that you need to put one in play every turn to activate all the abilities but im sure they are only going to get stronger with the next sets
Date Posted: Tue Mar/02/10 at 12:50pm

lin sivvi
Posts: 1608
Joined: 14-Jan-10

You know what really annoyed me? is that Kobolds, never made it past fifth edition. there was some serious potentional for that creature type, and they never went anywhere with it.  I mean they made elves a useful creature type, but not kobolds!!! angry. Also look at kithkin, there was one up until timespiral

Lets face it, magic has just gotten more unbalenced, many old cards, just can't compete with the newer cards
Date Posted: Tue Mar/02/10 at 12:51pm

lin sivvi
Posts: 1608
Joined: 14-Jan-10

So although slivers, weren't too good to begin with, they have gotten out of hand (i blame harvest sliver, and sliver legion)
Date Posted: Tue Mar/02/10 at 6:34pm

shakii23
Posts: 5711
Joined: 08-Sep-09

for me, i blame toxin sliver...
Date Posted: Thu Mar/04/10 at 10:11pm

Rokhan
Posts: 46
Joined: 20-Dec-09

Yeah My sliver deck is AWSOME. I cheat ;)

This site provides so many nifty things that with one card from a combo that untaps things.......CACKLES

Turn two, Gemhide sliver

Turn three,HASTE sliver(cant think of the name heart sliver perhaps) Then play any sliver for three

Turn four play Intruder Alarm, a sliver for 3, untap all slivers, drop a sliver for 4, untap all creatures, play Sliver over lord, UNTALL search deck for ........................................................................

In the end you drop every sliver in your deck on turn four. It reqires the perfect opening hand so it can get pushed back to the sixth turn. I like it

 
Date Posted: Thu Mar/04/10 at 11:44pm

Icuonuez
Posts: 241
Joined: 02-Mar-10

As much as I loathe slivers, they are never impossible to beat. I once beat a competitive play sliver deck (extended) with a standard Esper deck. the cards in the deck were all from the shards of alara block, so I was very limited. We played 2/3 and I won the first and last match. I also overwhelmed a sliver deck on turn 5 with Elves, and he had sliver overlord out. My friend ace a burn deck and a sliver deck with an Angel deck (Sans Mass Removal). What I'm trying to say is, Slivers arent really that good now that other builds are up to par. But I still hate them.

[Edited by Icuonuez on 4/Mar/10 at 11:45PM]
Date Posted: Mon Mar/08/10 at 5:09am

Superbrage
Posts: 40
Joined: 13-Jan-10

im missing 2 sliver, and then i have them all. mesmeric sliver and sliver legion. i got the other 74.



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