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Title: Answers 6
Date Posted: Sun Sep/05/10 at 1:50pm

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

This is the 6 one. . .

Is there a creature that says, "whenever this creature is dealt damage, deal that much damage to it's controller."?
Date Posted: Sun Sep/05/10 at 4:25pm

JMDin83
Posts: 880
Joined: 30-Jul-09

yah, Jackal Pup
Date Posted: Sun Sep/05/10 at 4:33pm

Turbine
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Joined: 26-Oct-09

Lol. Thanks.
Date Posted: Sun Sep/05/10 at 8:08pm

Turbine
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Joined: 26-Oct-09

If you use the new Venser with something that takes control for a turn, do you keep the creature?
Date Posted: Sun Sep/05/10 at 10:49pm

psyche
Posts: 1250
Joined: 31-Aug-09

Is there any card other than Darien, King of Kjeldor that triggers when you take damage?
Date Posted: Mon Sep/06/10 at 5:27am

shakii23
Posts: 5711
Joined: 08-Sep-09

that i don't know...
Date Posted: Mon Sep/06/10 at 8:56am

wurtnik
Posts: 342
Joined: 08-May-10

@ turbine, The +2 ability is only for permanents you own, you cant use it on a creature you control that an opponent owns.

Would work well with Confusion in the Ranks if you were willing to go 3 colours.

Or with Avarice totem if you wanted to keep the colours down but the cost of comboing would be more.

@ Phsyche Angelheart vial, blood hound, lich, living artifact and sun droplet.
Date Posted: Mon Sep/06/10 at 11:01am

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

Venser is better than I originally thought! Of course, there aren't any ways to abuse him in Standard (I think).
Date Posted: Mon Sep/06/10 at 11:45am

wurtnik
Posts: 342
Joined: 08-May-10

Any of the titans break even more as they get 2 uses a turn. Acidic slime every turn is nasty.

Ichor rats from scars can turn mean by adding poison counters to everyone.

I think it is still gonna get a lot of use in T2.

Its second ability is rather tasty, in scars thats gonna go well with infect.

And if you get the biggun off that's just immense.
Date Posted: Mon Sep/06/10 at 11:49am

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

I know. The second ability is amazing!
Date Posted: Mon Sep/06/10 at 6:48pm

psyche
Posts: 1250
Joined: 31-Aug-09

Found one i missed. retaliator griffin
Date Posted: Mon Sep/06/10 at 6:52pm

shakii23
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Joined: 08-Sep-09

Very nice abilities... i like the ultimate ability...
Date Posted: Mon Sep/06/10 at 6:58pm

Gregorius
Posts: 412
Joined: 01-Aug-10

How many cards are milled when you Twincast a kicked Rite of Replication targeting a Halimar Excavator?
Date Posted: Mon Sep/06/10 at 7:04pm

Turbine
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Joined: 26-Oct-09

More than 60.
Date Posted: Mon Sep/06/10 at 7:13pm

Gregorius
Posts: 412
Joined: 01-Aug-10

I know it's 181 (including when the original Excavator comes into play) before, but after the Twincast?
Date Posted: Mon Sep/06/10 at 7:14pm

Turbine
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Joined: 26-Oct-09

Well, I'm pretty sure that the kicker doesn't copy as well.
Date Posted: Mon Sep/06/10 at 7:34pm

shakii23
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Joined: 08-Sep-09

It does... if you copy a kicked spell, the copy is also kicked...
Date Posted: Mon Sep/06/10 at 7:51pm

Turbine
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Well, then it will mill out any deck, including a Battle of Wits one.
Date Posted: Mon Sep/06/10 at 7:56pm

shakii23
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yup... and makes his win con go bye bye...
Date Posted: Mon Sep/06/10 at 7:57pm

Turbine
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Joined: 26-Oct-09

He will not be able to draw if you did that!
Date Posted: Mon Sep/06/10 at 8:51pm

shakii23
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Joined: 08-Sep-09

but still...
Date Posted: Sat Sep/11/10 at 7:26pm

Gregorius
Posts: 412
Joined: 01-Aug-10

New question: What happens when you modify a random creature (say, an Ornithopter) with something like Wings of Velis Vel... and then duplicate it with something like Splinter Twin?

Will it make token duplicates of an Ornithopter, or will it make token duplicates of a 4/4 creature with all creature types and flying (at least until end of turn)?
Date Posted: Sat Sep/11/10 at 9:48pm

gericault5
Posts: 2788
Joined: 13-Oct-09

a twincasted rite will mill 785 cards =180 when the copy resolves, then another 605 when the orignal rite does.  formula is (number of halimar X number of triggers each has) times number of allys.  So then twin cast resolves you have (6 x 5) x 6 (or the same as a rite, and when the orginal rite resolves the forumla is (11 x 5) x 11

when a card is copied it only copies the orginal characteristics of the card, so in the example you will get a 0/2.  the best way to think of what a card will be when its copied is to take that card and xerox it.  thats your copy.
Date Posted: Sat Sep/11/10 at 11:14pm

shakii23
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Joined: 08-Sep-09

hahaha... i did that once... photocopied every card i need to be able to play test it... back when i didn't know about mws...
Date Posted: Sun Sep/12/10 at 11:21am

Turbine
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One time, my opponent had out a 4/4 Hydra.
Date Posted: Sun Sep/12/10 at 7:12pm

shakii23
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if you clone the hydra with the X on it's casting cost... the X would be equal to the original right?
Date Posted: Sun Sep/12/10 at 7:13pm

Turbine
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Wouldn't the X be 0?
Date Posted: Sun Sep/12/10 at 7:38pm

shakii23
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Seems like it... i mean X is the paid mana, almost like an additional cost or something...
Date Posted: Sun Sep/12/10 at 7:51pm

JMDin83
Posts: 880
Joined: 30-Jul-09

clones and such come into play with 0 counters of any kind, so if you cloned a hydra, it would be a 0/0.
Date Posted: Sun Sep/12/10 at 7:52pm

Turbine
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That's what I thought.
Date Posted: Sun Sep/12/10 at 10:02pm

shakii23
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Yup, i thought so too...
Date Posted: Fri Sep/17/10 at 10:51am

wurtnik
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Joined: 08-May-10

Was playing the other day, and we had a problem tectonic edge.

He went 1st and had 4 land down including 1 edge, I play my edge and use is to kill his collenade to take out his blue mana. He tried responding by killing my ravine.

I thought as it was my turn i get to act 1st And sacced the edge. I believe that now i have 3 land by the time my opponent has priority and cant target my land with his edge.

The other players there all said that he could respond and we all went with group rule, but I would like to know how events should have happened to be sure.
Date Posted: Fri Sep/17/10 at 11:03am

Zark-the-Damned
Posts: 523
Joined: 24-Feb-10

Playing a land does not use the stack. As it is your turn, you have priority to play abilities after playing the land.

As sacrificing your Edge is a cost, it happens immediately and can't be responded to (though the ability it generates goes on the stack can be responded to later).

Your opponent cannot then sacrifice their Edge, as they no longer meet the condition for playing it (as you don't control 4 or more lands).

In this case your play group was wrong. Take the opportunity to teach them about priority and the stack, and paying costs.

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1, Tap, Sacrifice Tectonic Edge: Destroy target nonbasic land. Activate this ability only if an opponent controls four or more lands.
Date Posted: Fri Sep/17/10 at 11:17am

wurtnik
Posts: 342
Joined: 08-May-10

Thanks zark. I thought that was the case, but went with them to keep the night fun.

Now its confirmed I can point it out before we start playing and we'll all be cool.

We've been playing at home for years now and have only recently been going to organised events, so learning about this stuff is good for all of us :)
Date Posted: Fri Sep/17/10 at 2:53pm

Turbine
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Joined: 26-Oct-09

Lands have different rules than all other cards.