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Title: Question about a card interaction
Date Posted: Mon Aug/30/10 at 6:12pm

ghostfire86
Posts: 496
Joined: 04-Nov-09

Humility is a card that i am trying to work a deck around right now.

Humility (Enchantment)

All creatures lose their abilities and are 1/1.

Will this card counter Enter into play abilities. For example, Wall of omens, Flametongue Kavu, or more importantly creatures with Graft X (This creature enters the battlefield with X +1/+1 counters on it. Whenever another creature enters the battlefield, you may move a +1/+1 counter from this creature onto it.). I don't really care about the moving counters part just the enters the battlefield with x 1/1 counters on it part.

Date Posted: Mon Aug/30/10 at 6:15pm

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

I'm not sure, but I'd guess that by the time that the creature is on the field, Humility has already canceled it out.
Date Posted: Mon Aug/30/10 at 6:16pm

JMDin83
Posts: 880
Joined: 30-Jul-09

Humility is a P.I.T.A for rules lol

this should help you as a general answer for EtB abilities, and Humility tho.


http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/showthread.php?t=230502

Date Posted: Mon Aug/30/10 at 6:23pm

ghostfire86
Posts: 496
Joined: 04-Nov-09

darn....going to have to refocus my design plan.....ty for the info.
Date Posted: Mon Aug/30/10 at 6:26pm

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

Pita bread. . .yum!
Date Posted: Mon Aug/30/10 at 6:26pm

JMDin83
Posts: 880
Joined: 30-Jul-09

np, i have had plenty of problems with Humility rules lol pretty blah. lol

someone had a combo question with humility and opalescence once.......the discussion on it from various judges was about 25 pages long.

basically because

Cast Humility
Cast Opalesence.

Humility is now a 4/4 creature.  Due to its own ability, its now a 1/1 with no abilities. therefore, it turns into a 4/4 with "all creatures are 1/1 with no abilities" now it turns itself into a 1/1 with no abilities, etc etc etc lol
Date Posted: Mon Aug/30/10 at 6:28pm

ghostfire86
Posts: 496
Joined: 04-Nov-09

Luckily protean hydra would still work lol. Unlike wall of omens which is "when it enters", it is strictly "enters with".
Date Posted: Mon Aug/30/10 at 6:29pm

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

Yeah, I saw that on Gatherer.
Date Posted: Mon Aug/30/10 at 6:31pm

ghostfire86
Posts: 496
Joined: 04-Nov-09

LOL Im confused

 
Date Posted: Mon Aug/30/10 at 6:32pm

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

Me too. Don't worry. It's unlikely to happen.
Date Posted: Mon Aug/30/10 at 6:52pm

JMDin83
Posts: 880
Joined: 30-Jul-09

it happened at a Pro Tour back in like 2008.  but they official decision was that since it creates an infinite loop that neither player could stop, (since there is no time to react since both are Static abilities), it would just force the game into a draw.
Date Posted: Mon Aug/30/10 at 7:10pm

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

Well, that works.
Date Posted: Mon Aug/30/10 at 7:31pm

shakii23
Posts: 5711
Joined: 08-Sep-09

I hated humility from the beginning...
Date Posted: Mon Aug/30/10 at 7:34pm

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

Why??? It's great!
Date Posted: Mon Aug/30/10 at 9:39pm

shakii23
Posts: 5711
Joined: 08-Sep-09

I hated it because me friend used it against my first elf deck... when i put in a sideboard, humility is ok for me...
Date Posted: Thu Sep/02/10 at 3:05pm

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

You hate being beat by it then.
Date Posted: Thu Sep/02/10 at 7:39pm

shakii23
Posts: 5711
Joined: 08-Sep-09

who doesn't hate it?



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