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Title: gericault5, I have a question.

Date Posted: Sun Aug/22/10 at 12:24pm

Eldraziking187

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Joined: 12-Apr-10

I will exept answers from anybody though.

Q. with cards like these:

Elvish Piper

The creature that ends up in play from these cards, does it have Summoning sickness?

I got into an argument and looked everywhere in the comprehensive rules and could find nothing. I know the transmuter brings out artifacts but I'm talking artifact creatures. Thanks to everyone that helps :D

Date Posted: Sun Aug/22/10 at 12:34pm

Turbine

Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

The creatures still have Summoning Sickness. Remember though, that you can play the abilities at the end of the opponents turn.

Date Posted: Sun Aug/22/10 at 8:00pm

shakii23

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Joined: 08-Sep-09

Yes it does have summoning sickness... everything that enters the battlefield that doesn't have haste has summoning sickness...

Date Posted: Sun Aug/22/10 at 8:01pm

shakii23

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Every creature, that is.

Date Posted: Sun Aug/22/10 at 8:02pm

Turbine

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Well, Scourglass is the closest to Artifact SS.

Date Posted: Sun Aug/22/10 at 8:47pm

gericault5

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Joined: 13-Oct-09

Shakii and turbine are correct, basically a creature will have summoning sickness if it comes into play since the beginning of your last turn, no matter how it comes into play, unless it has haste or the effect putting it into play grants it haste such as sneak attack. A creature loses summoning sickness if its in play at the start of your turn

Date Posted: Sun Aug/22/10 at 8:50pm

shakii23

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Are you making a Polymorph deck? LOL

Date Posted: Mon Aug/23/10 at 8:45am

Eldraziking187

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Joined: 12-Apr-10

No, I was playing someone on friday that had AEther Vial and Elvish P. in the same deck. He was under the immpression that they came into play without SS and could attack that turn. Then he went on to say that polymorph, since you disgard a creature, that did not have SS. I kept telling him he was wrong and he still argued and told me a pro player taught him to play like this. I cant find the comp rule on this. Can someone give me a link to show him? He would just argue that you guys are not pros. what a newb. Thanks.

Date Posted: Mon Aug/23/10 at 8:51am

Mentok

Posts: 202
Joined: 26-Jul-10

Just ask a judge the rules you are looking for are just the SS rules no matter where it comes from all creatures have SS unless Stated otherwise im just an RA but i know that SS is only averted if the creature was brought in during the opponents turn or it has haste

Date Posted: Mon Aug/23/10 at 9:08am

Eldraziking187

Posts: 670
Joined: 12-Apr-10

There was no Judge. It was casual at a what-a-burgar and the all were obviously newbs because everyone there agreed with him. I don't think I will play with this bunch again. I just want them to play right either way. Thanks everyone.

Date Posted: Mon Aug/23/10 at 9:11am

gericault5

Posts: 2788
Joined: 13-Oct-09

I dont think you should not play with people just because they dont know the rules take the time to teach them. hear is the rule your looking for

302.6. A creature�s activated ability with the tap symbol or the untap symbol in its activation cost can�t be activated unless the creature has been under its controller�s control continuously since his or her most recent turn began. A creature can�t attack unless it has been under its controller�s control continuously since his or her most recent turn began. This rule is informally called the �summoning sickness� rule.