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Title: Mill Deck Help...
Date Posted: Tue Aug/03/10 at 9:03am

Whiplash732
Posts: 38
Joined: 02-Aug-10

Ive built a pretty stacked Mill Deck but it does seem to have the edge that i thought it would.. this is what i have in it... open to direct crit., and looking for advice in making it better.

1x Jace, the mind sculptor

1x Jace beleren

4x Glimpse the unthinkable

4x Mind Funeral

1x Traumatize

1x Haunting Echoes

3x Memory Erosion

4x Broken Ambitions

3x Memory Sluice

2x Path of Exile

3x Twincast

 

1x Nemesis of Reason

4x Hedron Crab

3x Wall of Denial

2x Royal Assassin

4x Scrib Nibblers

3x Cathartic Adept

 

3x Drowning Catacombs

1x Glacial Fortress

4x Arcane Sanctum

4x Terramorphic Expanse

5x Island

3x Swamp

1x Plains

 

i have a few side boards but uhh, i just need some direction with this heap od sh*t..

 

 
Date Posted: Tue Aug/03/10 at 9:26am

wurtnik
Posts: 342
Joined: 08-May-10

I'd suggest archive trap as with the amount of search being used at the moment you almost always get it for free. If they aren't using any search keep it in your hand til you hit path to exile.
Date Posted: Tue Aug/03/10 at 9:37am

wurtnik
Posts: 342
Joined: 08-May-10

I'd suggest archive trap as with the amount of search being used at the moment you almost always get it for free. If they aren't using any search keep it in your hand til you hit path to exile.

Maybe use Oona, Queen of the Fae as your big bomb instead of or alongside Nemesis of Reason. She nets you a swarm of 1/1 flyers and removes the cards from the game so they can reduce any shuffle GY into library shenanigans.
Date Posted: Tue Aug/03/10 at 10:16am

W@W Podcaster
Posts: 445
Joined: 01-Jun-10

I think you sould take out the white, if this is a blue-black mill deck, why is there white? Put in Psychic drain too. In a mill deck, you shouldn't need blockers like Wall of Denial, just mill cards. Use the Wall's card slot for another mill card, like Telemin Performance. If your opponent runs big creatures, great! You get a big a blocker/attacker. If they have barely any creatures, even better! You'll mill a lot of their library then. Keening stone could help quite a bit.

It's like, "Okay, I'll Traumatize you."

"Aw man, you gonna use your Keening stone now?"

"Yup."    In the next two turns at most, you win. There are probably a lot of other good mill cards that I'm   just forgetting right now, but the ones I said are good.
Date Posted: Tue Aug/03/10 at 12:20pm

ghostfire86
Posts: 496
Joined: 04-Nov-09

Ok, time for my turn, hehehe.

I like the deck idea that you have going on at the momment and unlike the other guy I like the idea of white in this deck. The problem most people experience it that mill has no defense what so ever with the exception of removing cards and the few destroy card it will carry aka Royal Assassin. Wall of denial is a great idea in my opinion because it is so hard to get around without attacking with a big giant creature, deathtouch, or global effects.

My question is if you are trying to make this extended or legacy?

I personally would like to see isochron scepter in this deck. Also the use of mind funeral with path to exile is great seeing that you get ride of so many lands by them searching for them. Archive trap is also a great idea but not in abundance, maybe two if not three at the most. Instead of haunting echoes i would go with extirpate (which can go on isochron scepter). don't have to wait so long to ride of the cards you don't like that will be in grave by turn 5 (thats if you don't miss a land drop and have haunting echoes in hand). 

Jace, Mind sculpter should be two copies. Berlene is good but not as good as the other. On top of things you cannot have both mind sculpter and berlene in play at the same time or they will kill each other. Yes this is where the legendary likeness goes away from planeswalkers. I mean come on i loved haveing both my Kamals (one red and the other green) in play at the same time.

With the hedron crabs in play i am happy that you are using fetch lands. I would suggest puting out some money and getting some marsh flats. Pay 1 land and use it instantly.

With the memory erosion i would suggest putting in something that would do a massive bounce to all their stuff they by chance get out like kederekt leviathan. Maybe not but its your choice. You can also lapse of certaintly ($0.25) which would just sent the card to the top of their deck so they would have to recast if they really need or want it.

For those pesky graveyard decks put in leyline of the void. Sideboard deffinately.
Between leyline of the void and extirpate the idea is to get ride of cards that hurt you like bloodghast, gaea's blessing and ulamog, the infinite gyre.

Cathartic adept can just be shoved out of this deck. Its by far the weakest card you have in the whole thing. Not sure what else to put in its spot except by increasing the amount of other cards present like wall of denial, and royal assassin. Use at least 2 Nemesis of reason in this deck, you will be happy with the results.

 Broken Ambitions i am very partial towards and personally would not use. Others would prob argue that the clash helps a lot and the x cost allows you to over shot your opponents mana pool. I say use mana leak ($0.75), you get ride of the opponents card or they pay the three mana and cannot play anything else except for low casting cards which unless meant to be are not a kill condition at all. If you like the x cost idea use power sink ($0.25). Nuf said on this.

For the use of legacy MAIN BOARD at least one copy of painter's servant ($5.00 NM)and grindstone ($21.00 NM). Yes for $26.00 you can mill an entire deck with just two cards and believe me if you don't play legacy tournements 26.00 can seem like chump change. I have a deck that once completed will be valued at 1400.00 for legacy.

Also for legacy, you can achieve better board control with the use of Vindicates which are 1WB sorcery-Destroy target permenant.  They go for about $18.00-$20.00 a piece. Just a thought and yes expensive.



Is your head spinning yet?

Hopefully this will help you with your hep of...good beginings. Yes we will go with that, lol.


[Edited by ghostfire86 on 3/Aug/10 at 12:23PM]
Date Posted: Tue Aug/03/10 at 12:32pm

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

How long did you spend on that post?
Date Posted: Tue Aug/03/10 at 12:58pm

JMDin83
Posts: 880
Joined: 30-Jul-09

blue/black ally mill is a good way to go, also, since it looks like youre trying to go standard.

Halimar Excavator is a 1/3 for 1{U} that mills exponentially. (1, 4, 9, 16, with shifters it continues to 25, 36, 49, 64 lol)
Jwari Shapeshifter is another 4 Excavators lol
Agadeem Occultist is good as either main deck or sideboard, since you mill them and take their creatures
Seagate Loremaster is redonkulus with Jace's Erasure.

just a few thoughts.

also, mind spring + Jaces Erasure lol
Date Posted: Tue Aug/03/10 at 1:06pm

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

Clone also adds for Halimar Excavators.
Date Posted: Tue Aug/03/10 at 1:38pm

JMDin83
Posts: 880
Joined: 30-Jul-09

This is also true. :)
Date Posted: Tue Aug/03/10 at 2:46pm

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

Any other similar cards. Doppelgangers?

Dimir and Vesuvan


[Edited by Turbine on 3/Aug/10 at 2:47PM]
Date Posted: Tue Aug/03/10 at 7:09pm

shakii23
Posts: 5711
Joined: 08-Sep-09

3 words my friend... Main, Ravenous Trap...
Date Posted: Tue Aug/03/10 at 8:39pm

ghostfire86
Posts: 496
Joined: 04-Nov-09

for your information i spent about 30 min on this post. I have seen a lot of good mill decks played so the ideas for combination mill cards and much needed ones was not hard to think of. the shop i play at has the main top players in my area so i have had experience in seeing great decks.
Date Posted: Tue Aug/03/10 at 8:56pm

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

30 minutes??? That's crazy!!!
Date Posted: Tue Aug/03/10 at 11:08pm

shakii23
Posts: 5711
Joined: 08-Sep-09

Well, it is possible since it took me more than an hour to read a long thread when i was out for a long time...
Date Posted: Thu Aug/05/10 at 9:05pm

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

Wow. . .
Date Posted: Sat Aug/07/10 at 3:48am

Whiplash732
Posts: 38
Joined: 02-Aug-10

all i have too say is ty you all for the grrrrreat feedback.. (corny.. i kno..sorry)  right nw its basicly extended.i kno jaces erasure kinda made me think about more possibilities for milling, i made a few changes as well. i found a way to somehow throw some hindering lights in there.... and i had lapse's  as a sideboard. i need another nemesis of reason, i can get one of those easy... but jace mind sculptor is gonna be pretty damn hard to get.. im the only ne of my friends that were able to pull one. from a buster pack at target non the less... shocked? i was.. but ty all again for info and help. greatly appreciated.
Date Posted: Sat Aug/07/10 at 8:39pm

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

Where did Shakii go?
Date Posted: Sun Aug/08/10 at 7:51pm

shakii23
Posts: 5711
Joined: 08-Sep-09

It's a weekend so i'm out...



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