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Title: Another new deck I'm making. Artifacts this time.
Date Posted: Fri Jul/02/10 at 9:38pm

scottymandingo
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I want to make this deck pump up my creatures a lot and use Mycosynth Lattice and Memnarch for board control. The problem is, it seems like it would just be too damn slow. Not enough mana early in the game. So, this is what I want to put in (I realize I probably won't be able to fit all of these cards in):

Darksteel Forge (Artifacts I control are indestructible. Great card since everything I will be playing are artifacts.)
Tinker (Only have to sac one artifact, which could be a land, and can bring ANY artifact into play. I can understand why it's banned or restriced...)
Fabricate (Get any artifact into my hand.)
Master Transmuter (Return an artifact to my hand from play and then can play any artifact from my hand.)
Master of Etherium (P/T are equal to the number of artifacts I control. Which will be a lot. Gives my artifact creatures +1/+1.)
Etherium Sculptor (Makes artifacts cost less to play.)
Arcbound Crusher (Get's +1/+1 for artifacts entering play. With Mycosynth Lattice, that will be everything anyone plays.)
Arcbound Reclaimer (Let's me bring artifacts in my graveyard to the top of library.)
Arcbound Overseer (All of my Arcbound's would be getting +1/+1 every upkeep. More if using Coretapper/Energy Chamber and/or Doubling Season.)
Mycosynth Lattice (Turns everything into an artifact.)
Memnarch (Let's me take control of any artifact in play. Can also turn permanent's type into artifact.)
Inkwell Leviathan (Just huge. May be able to easily play with Master Transmuter and Fabricate and/or Tinker.)
Orochi Hatchery (Pump out a lot of 1/1 artifact creatures. Use with Coretapper/Energy Chamber to increase the amount I can pump out every turn. Even better with Doubling Season.)
Doubling Season (Double the counters and tokens made.)
EDIT: Forgot to add Coretapper and Energy Chamber. :)

For mana accel. I'm thinking Llanowar Elves and/or Birds of Paradise. Birds of Paradise might be better because then I could get either green or blue. Possibly Lotus Pedal since I could use Arcbound Reclaimer's ability to bring it back.

Shakii, Gericault, Twogun, JMDin83, I'm looking at you hahaha


[Edited by scottymandingo on 2/Jul/10 at 9:45PM]
Date Posted: Fri Jul/02/10 at 11:02pm

Twogunkid
Posts: 2609
Joined: 22-Jan-10

Good morning. I'd strongly use green khalni heart expidition is a great booster or if you want to stay artifact based urza lands and expidition map. I'm too tired for real analasis but this is my early thoughts.
Date Posted: Fri Jul/02/10 at 11:32pm

JMDin83
Posts: 880
Joined: 30-Jul-09

Seat of the Synod, Tree of Tales, Lodestone Golem.
Date Posted: Fri Jul/02/10 at 11:43pm

Pal-of-Lim-Dul
Posts: 1148
Joined: 24-May-10

In my artifact deck, I use Pilgrim's Eye and Esperzoa to get 1 basic land in my hand per turn...
Date Posted: Sat Jul/03/10 at 8:39am

Wolfclan14
Posts: 461
Joined: 23-Jan-10

Instead of Llanowar Elves, grab a Myr.
Date Posted: Sat Jul/03/10 at 8:40am

Turbine
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Joined: 26-Oct-09

All Artifact Lands needed.
Date Posted: Sat Jul/03/10 at 8:54am

scottymandingo
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Yeah, I meant to put that in there. I'm using Tree of Tales and Seat of the Synod. I thought about putting in Myr, but they cost 2 and Birds and the Elves cost 1.
Date Posted: Sat Jul/03/10 at 9:21am

Turbine
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Myr are way better.
Date Posted: Sat Jul/03/10 at 6:28pm

scottymandingo
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How?
Date Posted: Sat Jul/03/10 at 6:30pm

Turbine
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They are artifacts.
Date Posted: Sat Jul/03/10 at 6:31pm

scottymandingo
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So? They cost 1 more.
Date Posted: Sat Jul/03/10 at 6:32pm

Turbine
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But they're artifacts.
Date Posted: Sat Jul/03/10 at 6:34pm

scottymandingo
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Your mom's an artifact.
Date Posted: Sat Jul/03/10 at 6:40pm

Turbine
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You are sad.
Date Posted: Sat Jul/03/10 at 6:55pm

scottymandingo
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You're just mad.
Date Posted: Sat Jul/03/10 at 7:11pm

Turbine
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I'm angry about the stupidity of some people. Adding "your mom" to something doesn't make it an insult.
Date Posted: Sat Jul/03/10 at 7:53pm

scottymandingo
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Oh, I thought we were playing around. Eh, whatever.

Anyways, back to the topic at hand... I just remembered Cloudposts. Those seem like they would do nicely in this deck.
Date Posted: Sat Jul/03/10 at 8:02pm

Turbine
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Scapeshift!
Date Posted: Sat Jul/03/10 at 9:27pm

JMDin83
Posts: 880
Joined: 30-Jul-09

the new artifact lord thats comin out will be nice.

if youre making it tournament legal, then no use puttin in Tinker.  if not, then go for it lol.

if you dont mind 3 or 4 colors, then Mishra, Master Artificer is a MUST.  i also run prophetic prism's in my artifact deck since its a mana fixer AND it replaces itself. very useful little bugger.

Disciple of the Vault and Salvage Slashers, Atog and Lodestone Myr.
Date Posted: Sat Jul/03/10 at 10:01pm

scottymandingo
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Joined: 13-Jul-09

Awesome!

With Mishra, do you find it difficult to cast? How long does it generally take? Do you have a trick up your sleeve?
Date Posted: Sat Jul/03/10 at 10:05pm

Turbine
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He said Prophetic Prism.
Date Posted: Sat Jul/03/10 at 11:24pm

scottymandingo
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And I didn't ask you. Notice how your name wasn't included in the list? Take the hint please and GTFO.
Date Posted: Sun Jul/04/10 at 4:25am

architectofyourdemise
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Joined: 03-Jul-10

if your gonna run cloudpost i highly recommend using vesuva as well... those with the urzas lands and you got all the mana you need fairly quickly.
Date Posted: Sun Jul/04/10 at 9:57am

Twogunkid
Posts: 2609
Joined: 22-Jan-10

Actually you only need 4 mana so you can get transmuter. Run Land heavy 22 lands 12 urzas 4 of each and 10 islands transmuter will do what you need then use walking atlases for further acceleration.
Date Posted: Sun Jul/04/10 at 10:42am

Zark-the-Damned
Posts: 523
Joined: 24-Feb-10

How about adding March of the Machines? You already have Master of Etherium to save your own lands (assuming you have the Lattice in play) and it would kill all your opponent's lands (of course, it would make some of your creatures smaller too, but I think it's a decent enough trade off)
Date Posted: Sun Jul/04/10 at 11:30am

MorbidAnimosity
Posts: 557
Joined: 18-Apr-10

ADD EVERFLOWING CHALICE...
it has colourless mana acceleration.
and GREAT synergy with master transmuter
(you can play everflowing chalice for 0, and then just pay a blue with master transmuter to put an artifact from your hand into play.)

also,
add metallurgeon, lodestone golem, sculpting steel, mizzium transreliquat.
POSSIBLY blinkmoth urn, and darksteel colossus


[Edited by morbidanimosity on 4/Jul/10 at 11:39AM]
Date Posted: Sun Jul/04/10 at 6:32pm

JMDin83
Posts: 880
Joined: 30-Jul-09

as for casting Mishra, Scotty, i dont really have any tricks up my sleeve to cast him.  i run a 4 color artifact deck , so hes generally pretty easy to get out.  between artifact lands, and fixers like the prisms, or chromatic stars (another card that replaces itsself, YAY!, hes usually pretty simple to bust out.

its fun to play him, then next turn cast Lodestone golem, and get a copy of it lol.

he generally works great with mana-fixing or producing artifacts, but hes great overall anyways, because everything is 2 for 1.

And March of the Machines is ok, but it will kill alll of your artifact lands, since they have no CMC.  it IS a good finisher though.
Date Posted: Sun Jul/04/10 at 6:34pm

JMDin83
Posts: 880
Joined: 30-Jul-09

Scotty, let me get back to you here in a little while about my current Artifact deck. with a decklist.
Date Posted: Sun Jul/04/10 at 6:36pm

scottymandingo
Posts: 845
Joined: 13-Jul-09

Sweet, thanks!

EDIT: And thank you to everyone for their suggestions!


[Edited by scottymandingo on 4/Jul/10 at 6:36PM]
Date Posted: Sun Jul/04/10 at 7:33pm

shakii23
Posts: 5711
Joined: 08-Sep-09

Maybe a cranial plating or two? this is if your going for beat down but if your going for long game for some reason, use a few of these:

I think turbine is right on this one, mana producing myrs are better than BoP... They are artifact and add an artifact into your power boost...

Archbound Ravager, anyone?

Maybe, if you want an ornithopter... Throw in some affinity deck cards like Thirst for knowledge/Thoughtcast...
Date Posted: Sun Jul/04/10 at 7:47pm

JMDin83
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Date Posted: Sun Jul/04/10 at 7:48pm

JMDin83
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Lands - 19

2x Ancient Den  **
4x Vault of Whispers  **
4x Seat of the Synod  **
4x Great Furnace  **
2x Darksteel Citadel  **
3x Academy Ruins


Creatures - 28

4x Atog
4x Disciple of the Vault
4x Myr Retriever **
3x Lodestone Myr  **
3x Lodestone Golem  **
3x Goblin Welder
2x Mishra, Artificer Prodigy
2x Arcum Daggson
2x Dross Scorpion **
1x Bringer of the White Dawn



Artifacts - 12

4x Prophetic Prism
3x Chromatic Star
1x Soul Foundry
1x Darksteel Reactor
1x Darksteel Forge
1x Mycosynth Lattice
1x Killswitch

Other
1x Shatterstorm


** - Denotes a card that is both an Artifact and another card Supertype (Land, Creature, Etc)

Thats the deck, now for the explanations lol

*
Atogs and Disciple of the Vault are just mean lil beatsticks that can
win the game for you, or dramatically help you towards that end if they
arent dealt with quickly.

* Arcum Daggsson and Goblin Welder are
like a Dream Team of artifact synergy.  Especially when either one is
paired with Myr Retriever. 
Example:  "Weld my retriever that is
in play to get my darksteel forge.  Retriever's effect triggers,
getting me my other retriever.  i play it and sac it with Arcum Daggson
to get Mycosynth Lattice from my Library, and bring another retriever
back to my hand with the second one's effect.  Rawr..."   that kind
of scenario can happen frequently with this deck lol

* Lodestone Golem not only slows down your opponents decks, but its also a 4 mana 5/3....ill take that, thanks.

*
Academy Ruins helps you get back cards that your opponents zap away,
like the lodestone golem ("i pay 1R to bolt your golem!"  "End of
your turn, i put it on top of my library...pay 2 mana to zap it
again.")  or something else like a win condition (Darksteel Reactor
and the like), or in a real pinch, one of your mana fixers.

*
You might think Killswitch is kind of bad for your deck.  but its not,
as long as you use it right.  if you have a lattice in play first, then
you activate Killswitch, the game is basically on hold until YOU are
ready for it to end. (if you play an Atog before its activated, you can
always sac it before its your turn.  then during your turn, just Goblin
Welder it into play, and activate again.  permanent lockdown on your
opponent, and free room to swing for you.)

* The same principle
applies to my reasoning behind Shatterstorm.  If you have Lattice/Forge
in play, why not blow up everything your opponent has and go for the
throat?

* Soul Foundry works great with Dross Scorpion (in fact,
an old deck of mine used Dross Scorpion, Soul Foundry, and Ashnods
altar, with Cathodion imprinted on the SF to make infinite mana lol),
but you can imprint Myr Retriever, or Lodestone Golems or w/e you need,
and untap it when you sac something.  Voila! either repeated returning
artifacts to your hand via Retriever, or slowing your opponent Via
Lodestone Golem, or even repeatable Welding and Arcum Daggson.

*
Prism and Star are both Mana Fixers AND deck thinners.  Got Mishra
out?  cast Prism, draw a card, search for a prism and put it into play,
draw another card.  win. :)

* Darksteel Reactor is just another Wincon.


Hope you have fun with this list, Scotty!
Date Posted: Mon Jul/05/10 at 11:41pm

scottymandingo
Posts: 845
Joined: 13-Jul-09

Thanks a LOT! This helped me greatly! I'll post up what I decided on soon. :)
Date Posted: Tue Jul/06/10 at 3:24am

JMDin83
Posts: 880
Joined: 30-Jul-09

i look forward to seeing it.  maybe we can playtest against each other on MWS tomorrow/today before i go play at the local card shop lol (thats around 5pm eastern!)
Date Posted: Tue Jul/06/10 at 8:39pm

scottymandingo
Posts: 845
Joined: 13-Jul-09

Okay, so I changed the direction of the deck pretty drastically. I decided to go for a control type thing with blue. Because, let's face it, blue is arguably the best at control. Here's the deck:

Spell:

Tinker x4
Bribery x4
Fabricate x3
Mycosynth Lattice x3
Memnarch x3
Prophetic Prism x3
Chromatic Star x3
Panoptic Mirror x3
Treachery x3
Ray of Command x3
Darksteel Forge x2
Mind Control x2
Sky Diamond x2

Lands:

Seat of the Synod x11
Cloudpost x4
Vesuva x4
Urza's Power Plant x1
Urza's Tower x1
Urza's Mine x1

So, there are a lot of things I could do here. I can easily tutor my Panoptic Mirror or Memnarch or Darksteel Forge or Mycosynth Lattice with Tinker or Fabricate. Whichever I feel like. I could imprint Tinker, Bribery, Fabricate or Ray of Command on my Panoptic Mirror. So either tutor more cards or gain control of one or more of my opponents creatures every turn. Again, whichever I feel like. If I haven't taken enough of my opponents stuff, I have Treachery and Mind Control for back up. With Tinker and Fabricate, I can easily get the Mycosynth Lattice/Memnarch combo. in motion. The others are for mana accel.

Whatcha think?
Date Posted: Tue Jul/06/10 at 10:10pm

Twogunkid
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Joined: 22-Jan-10

You are unlikely to get urza lands with only one copy/ no ways to get them
Date Posted: Tue Jul/06/10 at 10:53pm

shakii23
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Joined: 08-Sep-09

I think he's going for Mycosynth Lattice + fabricate to fetch it...
Date Posted: Tue Jul/06/10 at 10:56pm

shakii23
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I think he mistaken the colorless cards as artifacts or maybe mistaken permanents as cards including the ones on your deck, lib and grave which is just wrong... or maybe is not depending on the urza lands...
Date Posted: Wed Jul/07/10 at 1:43am

JMDin83
Posts: 880
Joined: 30-Jul-09

my only question is how are you running 11x Seat of the Synod since you are restricted to just 4 of them? lol
Date Posted: Wed Jul/07/10 at 2:18am

scottymandingo
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I have the Urza lands in there basically for mana accel. But you're probably right. Just having one set would be kind of useless. They could probably easily come out.

I had four Seat of the Synod in there because I thought they counted as just land so I could have more. But if not, I'll just swap them out for Islands.
Date Posted: Wed Jul/07/10 at 4:28am

JMDin83
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remember, other than  Relentless Rats and Basic Lands you can only have 4 copies of any 1 card.
Date Posted: Wed Jul/07/10 at 11:51am

gericault5
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you don't really have alot of cheap options in which to sac to tinker, you might want to add some ornihopters or the like.  also you can use tolaria west to tutor your lands, which would help your excell as this is a pretty mana heavy deck
Date Posted: Wed Jul/07/10 at 1:44pm

scottymandingo
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Yeah, the plan was to use Seat of the Synod as the sac, but since I can only have four, that's probably not much of an option anymore.

Hmmm, what would you recommend taking out so I could fit some 0 cost artifacts in?
Date Posted: Wed Jul/07/10 at 2:04pm

JMDin83
Posts: 880
Joined: 30-Jul-09

also, instead of the urzatron, go for 3x Academy Ruins.

as for cheap artifacts for the sac, go with Shield Sphere, or any of the "baubles".  Myr Retriever is a great one too. 
Date Posted: Wed Jul/07/10 at 10:46pm

shakii23
Posts: 5711
Joined: 08-Sep-09

Hmmmm, how about just replacing the urza lands with ornithopter or maybe Mishra's Factory additional artifacts for you if it becomes a creature... I once did it against my friend, he didn't count a Mishra's Factory 2/2 artifact creature to the power given by cranial plating, he died from ornithopter equipped with it and Loxodon warhammer...
Date Posted: Thu Jul/08/10 at 1:12am

JMDin83
Posts: 880
Joined: 30-Jul-09

Scotty, i would like to play you with this deck sometime on MWS if youre down, we can playtest there lol
Date Posted: Thu Jul/08/10 at 1:26am

shakii23
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Joined: 08-Sep-09

I want to play to. unfortunately, i'm using Ubuntu right now and i don't know how to run it with Ubuntu... there is a linux version but i don't know how... Help! anyone?
Date Posted: Thu Jul/08/10 at 4:55am

scottymandingo
Posts: 845
Joined: 13-Jul-09

Yeah, I'm going to install that program soon. I'll let you guys know when I have it all set up.
Date Posted: Thu Jul/08/10 at 7:31pm

shakii23
Posts: 5711
Joined: 08-Sep-09

Too bad MWS has many error with Ubuntu's WINE...
Date Posted: Fri Jul/09/10 at 1:59am

JMDin83
Posts: 880
Joined: 30-Jul-09

sorry Shakii :(  maybe you could partition a section of your hdd to boot up windows and run it on that?  or google may be able to help you!
Date Posted: Fri Jul/09/10 at 3:23am

shakii23
Posts: 5711
Joined: 08-Sep-09

I already consulted Google. Hmmm better get a good partition manager then...



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