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Title: Sliver lovers (and haters).
Date Posted: Mon Jun/07/10 at 8:35pm

scottymandingo
Posts: 845
Joined: 13-Jul-09

Yep, I'm building a Sliver deck. :)

There are many types of Sliver decks one can build, Scottymandingo decided to go the "pump up"/token route. Aggro! I chose these cards strictly for pumping and other nice abilities that work very well with the pumps. Here we go:

Muscle Sliver x4
Sinew Sliver x4
Heart Sliver x4
Sliver Queen x4 (Use with Heartstone, Gemhide Sliver and Heart Sliver = infinite Sliver tokens)
Shifting Sliver x4
Gemhide Sliver x4
Heartstone x4
Frenzy Sliver x3
Brood Sliver x3
Essence Sliver x2
Sliver Legion x2
Channel the Suns x2

Lands:

Ancient Ziggurat x4
Rupture Spire x2
Crystal Quarry x2
Forests x4
Plains x2
Swamps x2
Islands x2
Mountains x2

Sideboard:

Crystalline Sliver x3
Fungus Sliver x3
Spinneret Sliver x2
Winged Sliver x2
Aphetto Dredging x3
Ghostflame Sliver x2

Pretty straight-forward. Stuff in the sideboard is for help with certain decks. Let me know what you all think!
Date Posted: Mon Jun/07/10 at 8:45pm

Twogunkid
Posts: 2609
Joined: 22-Jan-10

I like it. Two sliver legions? dude you lucked out in boosters I have one to go with my sliver queen and overlord.
Date Posted: Mon Jun/07/10 at 8:54pm

scottymandingo
Posts: 845
Joined: 13-Jul-09

Ohhh no. I don't have any Legions yet. This is just a "draft". This is what I'm thinking of building. I haven't played this yet.
Date Posted: Mon Jun/07/10 at 10:05pm

gericault5
Posts: 2788
Joined: 13-Oct-09

The nice thing about slivers is you just need 1 in play to get the ability, most of the other time, having multiple copies in play wouldn't matter heart, gemhide, and shifting for example.  i would decrease the amount of multiple copies you have(though keep gemhide at 4) and add some tutoring capablities (homing and overlord) as well as some of the ones below to increase your capabilites. also if adding the tutors at least 1 copy of crystalline should be main decked

 

Homing SliverSliver OverlordHorned SliverMuscle SliverQuick SliverSpined SliverTwo-Headed Sliver
Date Posted: Mon Jun/07/10 at 11:11pm

scottymandingo
Posts: 845
Joined: 13-Jul-09

Fetching them is a good idea. I'll probably throw in two Overlords and two Homing just for that.

The reason I have four of so many is so that I have more chance of getting the ones I want onto the battlefield. Also, having four of the Muscle and Sinew is much more chance of getting all of them pumped up. And, the more I have of them out, the crazy stronger they will get.

I think I'm going to keep Crystalline in the sideboard and use it against decks that destroy creatures and that kind of thing.

The Spined was in the original draft of this deck, but I decided to take it out. I figured they would be huge enough as it is and I'll most likely have a Shifting, so there would be no need for it.

Great ideas, though. Keep them comin'!
Date Posted: Tue Jun/08/10 at 4:21am

shakii23
Posts: 5711
Joined: 08-Sep-09

Do you have the "destroy target permanent" sliver? I think it's Necrotic Sliver... For those hard to kill creatures... Or enchantments... Or artifacts... Or planeswalkers or land...


[Edited by shakii23 on 8/Jun/10 at 4:22AM]
Date Posted: Tue Jun/08/10 at 8:24am

scottymandingo
Posts: 845
Joined: 13-Jul-09

Yes, I do have that Sliver. But again, this deck is to swarm and pump, not to control or outright destroy. I'll probably make a deck designed around that, but for now, pumping and swarming is what I'm going for. :)
Date Posted: Tue Jun/08/10 at 8:28am

lin sivvi
Posts: 1608
Joined: 14-Jan-10

For the pump and swarm strategy you need a little bit of control to make sure it doesn't get turnned around on you.
Date Posted: Tue Jun/08/10 at 9:36am

lin sivvi
Posts: 1608
Joined: 14-Jan-10

Consider this. . .

Date Posted: Tue Jun/08/10 at 6:36pm

scottymandingo
Posts: 845
Joined: 13-Jul-09

How would it get turned around on me?
Date Posted: Tue Jun/08/10 at 8:46pm

shakii23
Posts: 5711
Joined: 08-Sep-09

Ummmm, maybe using mass removals...
Date Posted: Tue Jun/08/10 at 10:06pm

scottymandingo
Posts: 845
Joined: 13-Jul-09

Yeah, I could see that, but I wouldn't use this deck against mass removal hahaha But, if I have the Overlord and the Homing, it should help with something like that. Plus, I wouldn't put out two Shifting Slivers or two Essence Slivers. I'd keep them in my hand just in case something happened.

I've thought about using the Toxin Sliver, but I would use that for more of a control Sliver deck. Toxin with Vampiric Sliver comes to mind.
Date Posted: Wed Jun/09/10 at 7:14am

lin sivvi
Posts: 1608
Joined: 14-Jan-10

What I meant, is while you are massing and buffing, your opponent is doing similair.
Date Posted: Wed Jun/09/10 at 7:36am

CaptinFluffy
Posts: 97
Joined: 22-Feb-10

Consider one Shadow Sliver. A friend used to play a sliver deck and would drop him then kill instantly.
Date Posted: Wed Jun/09/10 at 7:39am

lin sivvi
Posts: 1608
Joined: 14-Jan-10

good for finishing, but isn't as good as shifting. . .
Date Posted: Thu Jun/10/10 at 2:44am

Icuonuez
Posts: 241
Joined: 02-Mar-10

Oi, slivers. The best sliver deck I've seen so far went like this about every time.

Play Gemhide and Pulmonic
Slivercycle Homing and search for Overlord
play overlord, search for Shifting
play shifting, heart, Winged
Swing
play crystalline
Swing for game/ Scoop phase

Of course your idea is a bit different, so lets see.

Homing is a must, at least until you get an overlord out. Legions are powerful. I don't see the point in having 4 sliver queens, as 2 (at most 3) would do well enough after homing or overlord. I'd drop a heartstone, heart sliver, and shifting sliver. Also the Essence sliver gives me the idea that you just threw it in there to finish the deck. I'd replace those with 2 crystallines from your sideboard. You should also look at some regeneration capabilities, as this would work well with your token generation, and would make you capable against mass removal. As Gericault said, many card copies in your deck can be slimmed down just a bit.
Date Posted: Thu Jun/10/10 at 12:42pm

scottymandingo
Posts: 845
Joined: 13-Jul-09

I agree that homing is a must. That way I'll definitely be able to get whichever Sliver I want into my hand.

I have the four Sliver Queens, four Heart Sliver, four Gemhide Slivers and four Heartstones to have a much higher chance of being able to generate infinite tokens. I'll slim them back if I'm going to be putting more homing Slivers in, though.

Yeah, I probably did just throw in the Essence Sliver to finish it. I figured that I could gain a lot of life by having all my Slivers unblockable thanks to a Shifting Sliver. I probably could take them out and replace them with some regeneration Slivers.

I really don't play against many decks where I would need shroud. That's why Crystalline is in the sideboard. If I do play against a deck with many creature removals, then it's definitely going in the deck.

I found a card called Time of Need and thought about throwing that in here. It would greatly help getting the Queen, Overlord or Legion into my hand. The reason I thought about putting it in is because it's cheaper than "slivercycling" and I don't have to have the Homing Sliver out to be able to do it. I also thought about throwing in two Konda's Banner.

What do you think?
Date Posted: Thu Jun/10/10 at 1:04pm

scottymandingo
Posts: 845
Joined: 13-Jul-09

Question about the regeneration: If I have a Clot Sliver in play and also have Crystalline Sliver out, wouldn't that make it pointless since the Sliver would be targeting itself for regeneration?
Date Posted: Thu Jun/10/10 at 4:14pm

lin sivvi
Posts: 1608
Joined: 14-Jan-10

Clot sliver doesn't target, however crypt does, so if you intend to use crytiline alot, then go with clot.
Date Posted: Thu Jun/10/10 at 4:17pm

Icuonuez
Posts: 241
Joined: 02-Mar-10

Hmm. Maybe you should go with some Wordly Tutors. this would remove the need for Homing, and it's alot cheaper and easier to get your infinite combo out.
Date Posted: Thu Jun/10/10 at 4:21pm

lin sivvi
Posts: 1608
Joined: 14-Jan-10

It is also more $$$ if your broke, which I doubt
Date Posted: Thu Jun/10/10 at 4:33pm

Icuonuez
Posts: 241
Joined: 02-Mar-10

lol I'm sure money is no problem for Scotty, given that he's rolling 4 Sliver Queens.
Date Posted: Thu Jun/10/10 at 4:42pm

lin sivvi
Posts: 1608
Joined: 14-Jan-10

That is what I was thinking.
Date Posted: Thu Jun/10/10 at 4:44pm

Icuonuez
Posts: 241
Joined: 02-Mar-10

Yeah. Wordly Tutors are good, given what they do. I think the price is worth it. If only they reprinted this card in standard.
Date Posted: Thu Jun/10/10 at 6:00pm

scottymandingo
Posts: 845
Joined: 13-Jul-09

A Worldly Tutor would be awesome. The drawback I see is that I would have to put the creature on top of the library. With Homing, it goes in my hand. EDIT: And, I could use slivercycling more than four times if I need to.

I don't have the Queens or Legions yet; I have only one Overlord. I just got my hands on two Sliver Queens for $40 off eBay, so that was pretty sweet. I'm probably just going to go with three Queens.

Hmmm Slivercycling or Worldly Tutor...


[Edited by scottymandingo on 10/Jun/10 at 6:03PM]
Date Posted: Thu Jun/10/10 at 6:06pm

Icuonuez
Posts: 241
Joined: 02-Mar-10

How about both? 2 Homings and 2 Tutors. Also Worldly Tutor is an instant, so you could play it during the end phase of your opponents turn, that way you can just draw it when it comes to your turn.
Date Posted: Thu Jun/10/10 at 6:08pm

lin sivvi
Posts: 1608
Joined: 14-Jan-10

Personally I think that homing would be better but whatever
Date Posted: Thu Jun/10/10 at 6:09pm

Icuonuez
Posts: 241
Joined: 02-Mar-10

The thing about homing is, after you get overlord out, he's almost useless. Worldly tutors can still be used afterward. But everyone has their opinions.
Date Posted: Thu Jun/10/10 at 6:12pm

scottymandingo
Posts: 845
Joined: 13-Jul-09

How is the Overlord useless after he comes out?
Date Posted: Thu Jun/10/10 at 6:15pm

lin sivvi
Posts: 1608
Joined: 14-Jan-10

well the overlords ability to search for slivers means that discarding a sliver to search for a sliver isn't very helpful.
Date Posted: Thu Jun/10/10 at 6:20pm

scottymandingo
Posts: 845
Joined: 13-Jul-09

Oh, I read that wrong. I thought he was talking about the Overlord being useless, not the Homing. Whoops! Well, it wouldn't be completely useless... I could still attack with it. :)
Date Posted: Thu Jun/10/10 at 10:39pm

scottymandingo
Posts: 845
Joined: 13-Jul-09

Okay, so here's version 3 (lands are still the same):

Gemhide Sliver x4
Muscle Sliver x3
Sinew Sliver x3
Heart Sliver x3
Shifting Sliver x3
Heartstone x3
Sliver Overlord x2
Sliver Queen x2
Aphetto Dredging x3
Brood Sliver x3
Frenzy Sliver x3
Time of Need x2
Worldly Tutor x2
Homing Sliver x2
Sliver Legion x2

Tell me what you think!
Date Posted: Thu Jun/10/10 at 10:58pm

Icuonuez
Posts: 241
Joined: 02-Mar-10

I'm thinking you need to max your sinew and muscle, but that's just my opinion.
Date Posted: Thu Jun/10/10 at 11:03pm

scottymandingo
Posts: 845
Joined: 13-Jul-09

Really? What would you take out to max them both?
Date Posted: Thu Jun/10/10 at 11:05pm

Icuonuez
Posts: 241
Joined: 02-Mar-10

Eh.. I don't know. This deck is so packed with useful cards, I'm stumped. It just seems like they are your deck's main focus.
Date Posted: Thu Jun/10/10 at 11:13pm

scottymandingo
Posts: 845
Joined: 13-Jul-09

Well, you're right, they are. This is what I was thinking: removing the Frenzy Slivers, maxing the Sinew and Muscle Slivers and adding one more Aphetto Dredging. If I don't get a Shifting Sliver out, some of my Slivers are most likely going to die, so I want to be able to bring them back.
Date Posted: Fri Jun/11/10 at 12:23am

shakii23
Posts: 5711
Joined: 08-Sep-09

Patriarch's Bidding...
Date Posted: Fri Jun/11/10 at 1:32am

Icuonuez
Posts: 241
Joined: 02-Mar-10

That sounds about right. Looks like you have a good deck, sir.
Date Posted: Fri Jun/11/10 at 12:53pm

Turbine
Posts: 10194
Joined: 26-Oct-09

Toxin Sliver

Hunter Sliver

Talon Sliver

All that need be said.

Date Posted: Sat Jun/12/10 at 9:54pm

lin sivvi
Posts: 1608
Joined: 14-Jan-10

Definately get rid of the frenzy slivers, they suck, for a similair effect, go with blade sliver.
Date Posted: Sat Jun/12/10 at 9:58pm

lin sivvi
Posts: 1608
Joined: 14-Jan-10

@captainfluffy
"Consider one Shadow Sliver. A friend used to play a sliver deck and
would drop him then kill instantly."

I missed this line, but have you forgotten how shadow works? shadow isn't unblockable, it means that it can only block and be blocked by creatures with shadow. so it gives a slivers shadow making them able to block each other still, but nothing else can block or be blocked by them.
Date Posted: Sat Jun/12/10 at 10:12pm

Icuonuez
Posts: 241
Joined: 02-Mar-10

Which would be the same situation as Shifting Sliver, given that they can't be blocked except by slivers. I would say shifting is better, because unlike pro-all-but-slivers, there are creatures that have shadow besides slivers.



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