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Combo Name: Lockdown Submitted By: d-roc314
Card Name
Type
Cost
P/T
Editions (ordered by release)

Orim's Chant
 Instant W Planeshift, Rare

Isochron Scepter
 Artifact 2 Mirrodin, Uncommon
Estimated Combo Cost: $20.57
Date Posted: Mon May/17/10 at 3:50 pm

d-roc314
Posts: 66
Joined: 22-Nov-09

No description needed
Date Posted: Mon May/17/10 at 3:57pm

Twogunkid
Posts: 2609
Joined: 22-Jan-10

Panoptic mirror activated ability imprint disenchant or something, and can you imrint kicker spells with kicker? or do you have to pay it each time you activate it?
Date Posted: Mon May/17/10 at 4:02pm

d-roc314
Posts: 66
Joined: 22-Nov-09

you would have to play 2 colorless then one white to kick it.  It states that as the spell is played as Isochron Scepter plays a copy of the spell.  Even if you dont kick it.  Its still lock.

[Edited by d-roc314 on 17/May/10 at 4:04PM]
Date Posted: Mon May/17/10 at 4:05pm

lin sivvi
Posts: 1608
Joined: 14-Jan-10

12/1/2004: You don't pay the spell's mana cost. If the spell has X
in its mana cost, X is 0. You do pay any additional costs for that
spell. You can't use any alternative costs.

Kicker is an extra cost
Date Posted: Mon May/17/10 at 4:06pm

d-roc314
Posts: 66
Joined: 22-Nov-09

It cant be kicked but It doesnt really matter if its kicked.  Its still lock.  Panoptic mirror only pops during upkeep.


[Edited by d-roc314 on 17/May/10 at 4:07PM]
Date Posted: Mon May/17/10 at 4:07pm

Twogunkid
Posts: 2609
Joined: 22-Jan-10

I used mirror to point out its not total scavanger folk llanowar elves beats this to
Date Posted: Mon May/17/10 at 4:08pm

d-roc314
Posts: 66
Joined: 22-Nov-09

on second turn I think thats pretty much game.
Date Posted: Mon May/17/10 at 4:12pm

lin sivvi
Posts: 1608
Joined: 14-Jan-10

Except they can still play spells on your turn. . . Like disenchant
Date Posted: Mon May/17/10 at 4:25pm

TigerEyeFG
Posts: 24
Joined: 18-Mar-10

It's lock if you have a seedborn muse out or a filled quest for renewal. But they get priority on thier turn so they could play one spell on the stack before you activate.
Date Posted: Mon May/17/10 at 4:27pm

d-roc314
Posts: 66
Joined: 22-Nov-09

you can throw in a Tidewater minion to take care of that. It wont be until 6th turn but if you have creature drops you can get it out faster.  But it will be on 2 turns they cant play spells.

[Edited by d-roc314 on 17/May/10 at 4:32PM]
Date Posted: Mon May/17/10 at 4:41pm

TigerEyeFG
Posts: 24
Joined: 18-Mar-10

Tidewater minion would require you to still reserve the extra 2 colorless mana. With the two I suggested you'd be able to use any of the artifacts or lands that produce two or just two basics.
Date Posted: Mon May/17/10 at 9:14pm

d-roc314
Posts: 66
Joined: 22-Nov-09

Indestructibility, voltaic key, Orim's Chant,Isochron Scepter.

 

total lock by 5th turn.
Date Posted: Mon May/17/10 at 9:18pm

shakii23
Posts: 5711
Joined: 08-Sep-09

Aphetto Alchemist, Sol ring, Isochron Scepter, Boomerang... That's lock...
Date Posted: Mon May/17/10 at 9:20pm

gericault5
Posts: 2788
Joined: 13-Oct-09

Thran turbine can keep some mana free during your turn-fatesticher, unbinder tine, aphetto alchemist, can untap the scepter, though quest and seedborn are your best bets

also kicker, buyback, entwine are all additional costs, things like prowl, madness, the traps lower cost are all alternate costs

In other words, you can play the chants kicker cost when you cast it.
Date Posted: Mon May/17/10 at 9:23pm

TigerEyeFG
Posts: 24
Joined: 18-Mar-10

Lol, that has the same weakness as before. Except now it can't be destroyed; only removed from the game, exiled, or forced sacrifice. Oh, or destroy the I destructibility enchantment and then the artifact. Don't get me wrong still an awesome combo.
Date Posted: Mon May/17/10 at 9:34pm

gericault5
Posts: 2788
Joined: 13-Oct-09

 

 


[Edited by gericault5 on 17/May/10 at 9:34PM]
Date Posted: Mon May/17/10 at 10:43pm

yolemekim
Posts: 98
Joined: 28-Apr-10

its a cool combo that iv seen before but always wondered about the whole can you kick it thing.



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